I believe it also has the highest payload of the 3 as well.
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I believe it also has the highest payload of the 3 as well.
Yes the 8.1L medium duties that I could afford are cherrypicker forestry trucks and dump trucks. 4500-6500 mostlypeople use different terminology for medium duty and heavy duty etc. Most of us think of 3/4-1 ton as heavy duty but in reality medium duty is HUGE.
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The Suburbans way too small capacity, I think 12K max.
Skoolies maybe but tons of mods required.
Almost got a beaut 5500 carhauler, 8.1L + 4L85E but a guy snagged it while I was in the air 8-(
jadmt
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I would only buy a newer truck. On a Ram it would be a 2019 up because of the 8speed transmission and a Ford 2020 because of the 7.3 gasser. right now HD gas trucks are appreciating, not sure when and if things will get to normal but I was offered more for my 2020 Ram 2500 than I paid for it almost a year ago.
every hd truck is appreciating right now,if you can even find one.my dealer emailed me asking if i was interested in selling my power wagon.i just bought it 2 months ago.it has just over 4ooo kilometers on it.i sold my 2012 slt to my local dealer for a very good price and they had it for 3 days before it was gone.they called me 1 day after i sold it looking for the rear headrests because the buyer wanted them.
Every vehicle that is less than 10 years old, has a skewed value right now, once it rights itself it will go back to the way it was. If you do a search for Ram 3500 with the 6.4 on auto trader right now most of them that are 3 years old are listed for 25-30K which the deprecation is still pretty steep, I owned a 2500 Ram with the 6.4 that I purchased new, and sold when it had 80,000 miles on it, which is why I am not considering new..the depreciation is steep.
One thing to note, this truck will not be a daily driver, I have other vehicles for that. This truck will only be used to haul the truck camper and travel trailer etc a few times a year, probably less than 10-20K miles a year (unless there is an Alaska trip thrown in there). So a little higher mileage used truck that has already deprecated appeals to me.
If I were buying new, I know the truck and combo I would probably buy. I wanted to get those that have had experience long term with other 3/4 tons and 1 tons opinions and experiences to see if there was a model /motor combo I may have missed or not be familiar with.
For example, I have never really looked closely at the older Chevy's and someone mentioned that Chevy had used the same motor for a long production run in their 3/4 tons/1 tons. After reading that, I noticed that the pricing on those models is not bad at all even with lower mileage, I had overlooked them, and their payload and towing numbers are good as well.
This truck will get cranked up once or twice a month, go on a road trip for 3-14 days and return to its parking spot. So with that in mind, most modern vehicles can get around 200k with minimal maintenance or repair (under 5K) a truck with 100K especially a gas HD sometimes depreciates close to 30-50% off purchase price especially if it is close to 10 years old. But the depreciation from 100k to 200k is not that steep. So I figure if I can get a truck for 20-25K with about 100-150K at my rate of mileage accumulation I would have at about 3 years or more of use and upon resale after 200K the truck will bring in any market, probably about 5K less than I bought it for. Even if a major repair like a transmission rebuild is needed in that time, the amount still gets nowhere close to the depreciation hit in that period you get with a new one.
If I were looking for a diesel my plan would flip, I would buy new, run until warranty was up and sell.
Yes, the market is skewed and it is not the time to buy. I don't plan to buy until the used market rights itself, unless I can find a decent deal. I have found several trucks in the price range I am looking at that would work for my uses. I definitely would not buy a new vehicle right now. For the non HD truck needs, I am waiting to see what happens with the 2022 Tundra, if the pricing is not too crazy I may trade the tacoma or just keep the tacoma and buy the new tundra.
Ford is about to flood the lots with trucks in a few weeks (and also have the dealer complete production) and you may see the used prices on their trucks take a tumble at a rapid pace...
i look at it directly the opposite.no way in hell would i pay what i just sold my 2012 ram for.i got at conservatively 7k more than what is was worth.however,i did get a decent deal on my 2021 power wagon,and it was one of only 5 2021's left in canada.
jadmt
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Yup I figure i am only on this earth a short while so why buy something old. I like new stuff and intake care of it and when the time comes to sell i always do better than the norm. Everyone has their own comfort level tho.
Truck camper and RV towing, road trips, no mention of off-roading, so I assume pretty typical forest service roads are about the worst terrain this truck will see...I'd get a GM 2500 or 3500. The IFS will make it drive and handle better on road, and it's a lot tougher than many give it credit for. The 6.0/6-speed combination is just about bulletproof, since it has been used for so long, relatively unchanged, in so many applications.
I understand the sentiment, and I also buy new, every vehicle I own now with the exception of one of my motorcycles was bought new, Heck I even buy new tractors and lawn equipment. For this particular use and purpose I have in mind, I think I am going to go preowned and use some of the money I save somewhere else.
You pretty much nailed the usage, no crazy off roading, (I have a tacoma. and jeep that I can tow behind for that) mainly forest service/semi maintained get you away from the campground into dispersed camping kinda roads. I never really gave the GM 3/4 ton and 1 Ton trucks a look, but I have looked at more of them the past few days and I do like the prices and capabilities I see. I do also like the fact that GM trucks are some of the most economical trucks to maintain and repair as well.
I know I'm sharing my bias here but I also know I'm not alone. My Yukon (so essentially a 1/2 ton) had 260k miles and my total for repairs (other than regular wear items like brakes) was 1 front hub, the fuel pump (in the tank which sucks- the fuel keeps the pump cool so keep your tank topped off/over 1/2 full if you can to limit wear), and the PS Cooler. That's it. I finally replaced the original serpentine belt at 200k or so because the spare I had bought was getting old ha.
I tried to find an article I was going to post for you but couldnt. I think it was Gale Banks but I wont swear to that. Im probably going to bastardized the story i read it a while ago but essentially this is what happened. They bought a junkyard Chevy smallblock to add a turbo to to see how many HP they could get out of it before it broke. They mounted it on a dyno and kept cranking up the boost. It finally blew up after posting 1,000 HP on the dyno. When they tore it down they realized it wasnt a 350 smallblock but was a 283 or something. And I'm not suggesting you will go nuts with a build based on your comments but the bulletproof nature is accurate.
I also like that parts are so easy to come by. With so many vehicles spread across so many platforms sharing the same essential parts you shouldnt be left in the lurch if something does break. I would find one you like in good condition body wise, research the known weak spots (like the fuel pump if it has the elec), make those fixes and go have fun! Good luck. You might also look for a 2500 Suburban/Yukon XL. I know those are rarer than hens teeth but if you have kids the room will be appreciated, and you get the 3/4 ton capacity. Just my opinion and like everything on the web, you get what you pay for! Ha!
good luck.
Grassland
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I'd say an F250 with 6.2 and 4.30 gears.
But if the 6 liter Chevy's are priced well then giv'r.
Reliability excites me, especially because I can't afford big HP lol.
Don't have tons of experience with either personally, but the F250 was in the running for a fleet truck. Friends electrical company has two of his three 2500 chevies still, I didn't find the ride very nice even loaded up and towing a trailer.
But if the 6 liter Chevy's are priced well then giv'r.
Reliability excites me, especially because I can't afford big HP lol.
Don't have tons of experience with either personally, but the F250 was in the running for a fleet truck. Friends electrical company has two of his three 2500 chevies still, I didn't find the ride very nice even loaded up and towing a trailer.
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You're close. They thought they had picked up a 5.3 and they got a 4.8. Either motor can take 6-700 HP on stock internals as a daily driver so long as the fuel, timing, and boost are veeeeery well managed.
Thank you. I knew I was screwing up part of it. I was amazed at the results and what it showed for strength of the engine as a whole. Thanks for clarifying it!