BigDaveZJ
Adventurer
I have a ZJ, have had a WK2, and my folks have a WJ and WK, and I've been around a LOT of different Grands since I bought my ZJ in '00. I've probably wheeled with at least 150 different Grands of various vintages and build levels. The ZJ was built on what is basically a modified XJ platform. The TJ even borrowed the front suspension from the XJ and ZJ. When the WJ came out, it shared similar geometry to the XJ/ZJ/TJ, but with a more refined road ride, but still solid axles. As Jeep moved away from that with the WK platform, which IIRC was a Mercedes design, the Grand platform became less and less about off highway capability and more about road comfort and luxury. Jeep just simply doesn't cater to the dirt crowd with the Grand, and it shows in the vehicle. They parade the heritage around, but it just simply is not what it used to be, which is why you don't see that many out there. I took my WK2 out on several trails, and while it was comfortable, it's not even close to what a ZJ or WJ can do off the beaten path.
As the JK has evolved and become more off road capable than previous Wranglers, the Grand has moved the other way to keep a certain part of the market segment.
I've also taken several stock ZJ's and WJ's through Poison Spider without issue. Also wouldn't have any issue with either on Black Bear Pass. Took my stock WK2 over Black Bear a couple years ago, would NOT suggest that to anyone.
As the JK has evolved and become more off road capable than previous Wranglers, the Grand has moved the other way to keep a certain part of the market segment.
I've also taken several stock ZJ's and WJ's through Poison Spider without issue. Also wouldn't have any issue with either on Black Bear Pass. Took my stock WK2 over Black Bear a couple years ago, would NOT suggest that to anyone.