Would you buy a 26 inch MTB in 2012? In 2013?

dieselcruiserhead

16 Years on ExPo. Whoa!!
If it helps...

I think there are some interesting analogies of how bike size fits a lot like some of the hobbies here on the Expo board. Like a good motorcycle there is seldom one that does "everything" well so you kind of need to have a couple to do it all well. And a lot like a built Subaru versus a Tacoma on 31" or 33" tires, this is similar to 26" versus 29" etc. What do you want to drive and how to you want to feel doing it? What type of terrain are you riding and how do you want that terrain to feel to you?

Second is a lot of it is related to the fit and size and feel of the bike. For a MTB to work really well in my opinion you sort of need to be "between" the wheels instead of on top of it. 650b and 29er accent this feel a little further with some differences in style and feel as side effects (both good and a little bad), so a lot of it comes as basically preference and how you like or prefer the feel of the bike. Sort of like which would you rather get around in, a pretty capable beefed up Subaru or a Tacoma. Something like that... Like Flounder for example I ride with a 5'3 105 woman who rips it on 29er... I guess she'd rather drive the Tacoma I suppose.. :) THis is the largest issue/question I supposed you'll want to come up with on your own, when making a decision. You also probably want to make this decision by riding different bikes and seeing how they feel.

  • 650b: I've been on a 650b since 2008 (Ventana 5" full suspension) right when the MTB tires (Pacenti Neomoto, etc) started coming out. I used a 650b specific fork at first but 650b fits in a bunch of 26er forks so I just used a 140mm travel RockShox fork that was great. What matters is Axle-Crown measurement if the tire fits, so its mostly a non issue. The wheels were awesome right off the get go and really do feel a lot more like 29er to me in terms of rolling resistance. You definitely feel the lug of the 650b compared to a 26er (26er is very peppy to me) so I agree with the statements of "best of both worlds." Now when I get on a 26er unless I'm really paying attention to my lines all day long I feel like I feel every bump in the road with 26." However the bike is fast, goes around corners and fast and tight areas well, and really has that 26" size tire feel of activeness and aggressiveness. So the answer for me is that I'll likely not ever go back to 26" as well.
  • 29er: In just this last two weeks actually, being 6'5 tall, I went back to 29er on a 2XL 140" travel Turner Sultan. I feel "in" the bike for possibly the first time in my life. Being 6'5 and "in" the bike is hard to do unless you go seek out a behemoth bike. I guess, in this case, I finally did.
With 29er I probably have the same experience as a lot of folks. Worlds faster and just mows over terrain. Feels a little like a truck, but feels good its its manageable on the terrain. On the Turner I'm already worlds faster on uphills and technical riding and it's really noticeable. I'm getting used to its size though which is the only thing I so far am having issues with. This will come with time though, just how you learn to drive a pickup truck. I love how it handles though, so far to me it is the ultimate and possibly the best trailbike I've ever ridden. It's efficient and fairly light (I built it up less than 29lbs, impressive for an aluminum 29er), and I can't believe how happy I am with it so far. Does not take a whole lot more effort to spin 29er and I like it/my body performs well with keeping the 29er wheels turning instead of the quick snappiness of the 26" tire from accelleration/decelleration/hit rocks in the trail standpoint.

So my conclusions are:

  • 26", handles nice and tight and feels good, feels a lot in the road. I think 26" is still great for long travel plush downhill though. On a 6" or more travel bike, 26" feels completely awesome and no need to change something that works so well. I personally would only but one if I focused heavily on downhill or I was very short.
  • 650b sort of like a small off road tire. Good and hearty but still have personality and playful. Sort of like having 31s on your Tacoma. My opinion is all trailbikes should be 650b today.
  • 29er great for taller folks or those who want that 33" tire feeling or guys like me where you really should be on a big bike. I think big bike is more important than handling and around switchbacks. Again, this comes with just getting used to the bike. A lot folks really like that big bike big tire feeling, and it completely makes sense...


Again, matter of preference...
 

Christophe Noel

Expedition Leader
For what it's worth, my newest bike is a 29er hardtail that might be one of the snappiest bikes I've owned in a very long time. I had it built with pretty snug rear stays, slightly steeper head angle than I normally ride and I kinda closed in the whole posture on the bike for a more spirited feel. It totally rips. I wouldn't want it any quicker handling as it would then become pretty nervous. So, as is true for most things in bikes, it's all relative.
 

ejj

New member
I bought a Salsa Mukluk Fatbike last winter. It is awesome. Do not pass up trying one out. You will be grinning--should be called "fun bikes." Again, don't dismiss the idea of a fatbike until you've tried one.
 

drgnhrt1979

Adventurer
This is all interesting. I myself am considering the bike packing idea. I have a cheap low end full suspention Mongoose bike that gets me by for now. It has 26" wheels, and I have to agree with the comment(s) about feeling the terrain. I seem to feel every bump on road and off. I am gonna fix and upgrade a few things before I pass it on to my 11yr old son when I buy myself another. The new bike for me I was not sure of what I wanted to get just yet. I was gonna go to my local bike store and see what they would recammend based off what I am planning on doing. I am not gonna rule out any tire size, setup, etc till I test out a few bikes to see what fits me, my goal, and my budget. If I come up with 2 or more bikes then it will come down to the little things like brakes, seat, aftermarket support, total cost of ownership, etc.

My suggestion is to evaluate what your long term plans are for the bike, then go to your local bike store and have a talk with them to fit you to the right bike for you.

As it was said already, if compared to what this forum is all about, you can not get a bike that is good for everything. If that were the case, then this would be a very small forum. Different setups serve different purposes. You need to find one that best suits your intentions, then tweak it to fit you.

Just my $0.02
 

dieselcruiserhead

16 Years on ExPo. Whoa!!
Rode my Turner Sultan last night and had a record ascent and descent of one of the common local climbs/rides here in Park City. Literally my fastest time up and fastest time down. Made my day....
 

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