Xtreme 4x4 Expedition Jeep Grand Cherokee

[Philagony04WJ]

Nevermind, I found my own answer, I was completely wrong on the purpose of the build. Its not the Film Crew rig, that was the Nissan.

 

[drgnhrt1979]

You obviously know little about the income level of some of the members of this forum or our level of ability, so do not make assumptions based on your own situation. Oh, and we use proper grammar as well....

oh yea, and let me add that because you have 1200+ posts and live in Utah, that makes you the most experianced and quailified person on this forum, right?? :bowdown: What is your level of ability/background? I make the assumption that based off your avatar, you at least know how to drive off a cliff.

 

[TangoBlue]

oh yea, and let me add that because you have 1200+ posts and live in Utah, that makes you the most experianced and quailified person on this forum, right?? :bowdown: What is your level of ability/background? I make the assumption that based off your avatar, you at least know how to drive off a cliff.

You said nothing wrong; he often responds negatively to any post in order to illicit a response but is most often ignored as you'll see. That's just Black ZJ's way... not worth wasting the electrons.

 

[drgnhrt1979]

You said nothing wrong; he often responds negatively to any post in order to illicit a response but is most often ignored as you'll see. That's just Black ZJ's way... not worth wasting the electrons.

Fully understood, but if he is gonna call out my income, ability, etc, I want to know his too, its easy to sit behind a computer and anomously give your opinion, right or wrong, and most often I have seen it wrong than right. I would rather waste the electrons on him rather than the votes on the do nothing polititians that make it harder for us to enjoy the country they way it was meant to be enjoyed... at least I can get something out of Black ZJ.

 

[newimage]

Instead of bashing Ian and his show here, shoot him a email. We worked with Ian and Extreme 4x4 while I worked for Tony at GenRight and he is a great guy, yes he will go off the deep end but that makes for good TV. Again voice your feelings to him compose a email and send it off.:coffeedrink:

 

[drgnhrt1979]

Instead of bashing Ian and his show here, shoot him a email. We worked with Ian and Extreme 4x4 while I worked for Tony at GenRight and he is a great guy, yes he will go off the deep end but that makes for good TV. Again voice your feelings to him compose a email and send it off.:coffeedrink:

well said and great idea. All though I did not bash him myself, or at least I dont think I did, I just might shoot him an email anyway. From watching the show, he seems like he would be a nice guy to know and someone that would go out of his way to lend you a hand, a real friend. That aside, my issue is with the few that have a narrow mindset, and are bashing from there.

As I said before, there is no right way or wrong way to do something in the off road world. There can always be a better way, but everyone should be gratefull that he did an EXPO rig and not just another mudder/crawler. Overlanding got some exposure to the masses, take it for what its worth.

I overland the world everyday, through the window of the computer wishing I had the means to go to the places I can google.

 

[88Xj]

The former host of Trucks was Stacey David. He left the show to start his own show Gearz on Speed. The story I heard was that he was tired of pimping parts he didn't believe in just because the advertisers wanted their stuff on every episode. I also heard he had some personality conflicts with some of the production end of things. Just one of those things that wasn't working out I guess.


Jessi is still around. She has a new show coming out on Velocity which is basically an all-girl fab-shop :Wow1:



In the grand scheme of things I think they do a good mix of bolt on projects, custom-fab, and fab-mod work. Not everyone has the abilty or time to fab everything from scratch. I for one can't weld and don't have anything to fab with. I pay attention to both Trucks and xtreme for that reason since both give me a lot of good info. I do think they do get out on the trails a lot more now than they did last year. I think (at least for xtereme) it took them a while to reestablish the show after Jessi left.

Anyway, I have met both Ian (from xtereme) and Kevin (current host on Trucks) and both are top-notch guys. If you don't get CRAWL magazine, you should since Ian is a major contributor to that magazine and it is a little more "hardcore" and fabrication oriented than any other 4x4 magazine out there. Not sure what all Kevin has his fingers in right now, but I know he has a slew of "how-to" videos for body work stuff out there.



Preaching to the choir. I run 2" of lift and 31s open/open with stock axles. I would eventually like to bump to 33s, but I love going places on 31s that people think I can't go. :smiley_drive:

Ya Stacey, idk how to explain it but the show was just better when he was around!
And I never knew the new trucks guys names, but ya they are a cool bunch, seem upstanding and all, its just the show isn't the same..its alot more fast past now..and I haven't watched much so I'm not sure how much they are/aren't going out, but its nice to see them do that! Last episode I saw of trucks they were out in the bolt on LJ and the turbo Taco.

Ian is a great guy! Thats for sure! He doesn't act high and proud, hes one of us! Truely a great person to talk to, learn from or just shoot the ******** with. I just think the show is more orientated at bigger high dollar builds.
My point of the budget Xj, being something like 12-15K to build..thats no where near a budget build lol. I remember back in the day when Jessie was around still..at least I wanna say they had a budget build, set cap at like 5k and went for it..they listed every part & price, down to nuts and bolts lol.
Forget what they built though...But thats what I like seeing, 5grand is deffinetly managable for the average person over a year or so span!
Especially the XJ guys, we aren't high dollar wheelers, I mean crap my Xj's got parts from like 8 or 9 different vehicles because its a true budget version of a solid ExPo rig..
My post wasn't meant to trash either show. I love them both, but I don't watch much anymore because they seem more oriented towards sponsors & high dollars. Basically I click to watch, if its


I'm running a 88 Xj 5speed, 3", 31's. Ax15/NP231 from a 91, OG motor thats being built into a 4.2L mini stroker, 94 D40 Hp with 760X shafts, and spares! 99 C8.25 29spline with a factory LSD, both 3.55's. Gearings slightly better than stock. I've got a OHC I'm retro fitting, its got a waggy front clip and metal tail lights...Now I've got a base I'm going to start on a roof rack & bumpers, and finish up on the interior mods!

I'm deciding on bumpers...look for a new thread and give me your opinions.

 

[88Xj]

well said and great idea. All though I did not bash him myself, or at least I dont think I did, I just might shoot him an email anyway. From watching the show, he seems like he would be a nice guy to know and someone that would go out of his way to lend you a hand, a real friend. That aside, my issue is with the few that have a narrow mindset, and are bashing from there.

Ian is a great guy! Hes can kick back and talk it up, or go out and tear it up! I remember someone posting they won a ride with him in a offroad event. And he ended up pulling cable for that guy. Ians a great guy, very talented & intellegent. I just wish the show was more oriented to the different types of people.

And yes it is good to get a ExPo build on Tv.

 

[ian from xtreme]

The budget Cherokee was a 5G budget, and as a matter of fact once the show aired we put together a package with the guys at 4wp to offer the entire package at just under 5G including shipping.....

As for the Grand....I know it was not the ideal Expo rig, but that was not it sole purpose. It was to have a good dual purpose rig that could haul the dedicated expo trailer.

Now the Tacoma that I just finished is truly an Expo rig......someone said there was a thread on here about it but I cannot find it.

 

[Rubicon John]

The budget Cherokee was a 5G budget, and as a matter of fact once the show aired we put together a package with the guys at 4wp to offer the entire package at just under 5G including shipping.....

As for the Grand....I know it was not the ideal Expo rig, but that was not it sole purpose. It was to have a good dual purpose rig that could haul the dedicated expo trailer.

Now the Tacoma that I just finished is truly an Expo rig......someone said there was a thread on here about it but I cannot find it.

FWIW, I really liked the GC Expo rig and trailer. The trailer build is on my "to do" list. I DVR your show each week so I can't wait to see the Taco in Expo gear! Thanks for putting together a first class show...

 

[jscusmcvet]

The budget Cherokee was a 5G budget, and as a matter of fact once the show aired we put together a package with the guys at 4wp to offer the entire package at just under 5G including shipping.....

As for the Grand....I know it was not the ideal Expo rig, but that was not it sole purpose. It was to have a good dual purpose rig that could haul the dedicated expo trailer.

Now the Tacoma that I just finished is truly an Expo rig......someone said there was a thread on here about it but I cannot find it.

Cool to have you chime in Ian. I love your show. It si not that I can afford to build or have the skills to build what you guys do... but ain't that the point? If I wanted to watch what I can do... well, I guess I'd be up in my barn building it... ;-) What I like is seeing the crazy stuff you guys put together that frankly I just could not pull off. Even some of the lower dollar stuff... like the diesel samurai (my favorite)... loved it, but with the family, kids in college, etc... it just ain't happenin.

Might as well watch your show and then hit the jeep with my limited ability and have some fun.
John
Keep it up.