Yellow Pads tell me why I need them

[98dango]

Ok I have been around trucks my whole life and still buy organic pads and stock rotors. I have installed every thing from used junk yard stuff to full on bear and willwood brake systems but never on my own rigs. Yes most of my rigs have seen alot of water and hot brakes got to love the PNW climate mud will happen on your drive to work. So the few times I have had to get (better pads) they dont last make noise and heat crack. I dont use my rigs the same now as I did back then. So im trying to see if there really worth the extra money and time to get them in.

 

[bftank]

i think in the case of a 4wd, you are better off spending your money on converting your rear to disc brakes before upgrading to high caliber pads and rotors. if you already have 4 wheel discs and still having problems braking, look into a larger master cylinder. still having problems then maybe look into the aftermarket stuff.

we had a minivan we did the fancy pads and rotors on and yes they worked a lot better, but with the van i didn't want to get into extreme mods on it.

just my opinion

 

[warrpath4x4]

i dont think hes having problems braking, just wants to know if its worth upgrading.

two questions

do you tow alot

do you have nice wheels you want to keep clean

 

[98dango]

Tow not much a datsun 620 or 1 dirt bike and 1 quad wheels panted black stock. breaking is just fine now I just hear about the yellow stuff and was asked about them with no answer.

 

[warrpath4x4]

not sure which yellow pads your talking about but from the sounds of what your doing you will be fine with the organics and stock rotors.

 

[Buliwyf]

As long as your not using heavy tires/wheels with your setup then you can skip them. If you're after better performance and more initial bite, then the yellows are the way to go.

I decided to skip the EBC Yellow pads on my truck because I'm not hauling much lately. I just used Napa Ultra Premium Pads all the way around. Not much initial bite, nice and smooth, but when I stomp on them they stop very well. Then again, my trucks brakes are kinda overkill when I'm unloaded, so take my setup with a grain of salt. I haven't hauled anything really heavy since I put them on.

Keep in mind that the expensive "Ultra Premium" Napa parts ARE the OEM quality brake parts. The cheap regular parts should be avoided. The Napa Premium rotors are decent, but I prefer the Ultra Premiums. I have Ultra premium rotors in the front and premium in the rear.

The EBC Yellows are the best stopping organic pads out there, that's all I run on my Mach1. The greens are a little less sensitive and also work very well.

 

[bftank]

nobody said he was having problems braking, my point was that unless you are having problems braking, converted to 4wheel disc, and bigger master cylinder and still had problems, then your next option would be to upgrade pads and rotors. so since there is no brake problems no need to convert to 4wheel disc, or bigger master cylinder, or yellow pads.

we used the green stuff pads and slotted rotors on the van because loaded coming done grades it would smoke the brakes which warped the rotors giving me a reason to replace them. forgot to add that part in my last post.

personally i would not upgrade my brakes with slotted rotors or yellow pads unless i had extra cash staring at me for a change, and my old ones needed replaced anyways. i am a pretty cheap penny pincher.

yellow pads are great for taking and leaving notes however.:snorkel:

hope this is more coherent, i am coming up on the end of my hitch and 12 hour shift so things are starting to get jumbled

 

[98dango]

nobody said he was having problems braking, my point was that unless you are having problems braking, converted to 4wheel disc, and bigger master cylinder and still had problems, then your next option would be to upgrade pads and rotors. so since there is no brake problems no need to convert to 4wheel disc, or bigger master cylinder, or yellow pads.

we used the green stuff pads and slotted rotors on the van because loaded coming done grades it would smoke the brakes which warped the rotors giving me a reason to replace them. forgot to add that part in my last post.

personally i would not upgrade my brakes with slotted rotors or yellow pads unless i had extra cash staring at me for a change, and my old ones needed replaced anyways. i am a pretty cheap penny pincher.

yellow pads are great for taking and leaving notes however.:snorkel:

hope this is more coherent, i am coming up on the end of my hitch and 12 hour shift so things are starting to get jumbled

Ya you basicly told me not to waste my money as I had figured already. I am also a pincher and do what needed not whats always cool. I do have cross drilled and slotted rotors on my race rig. I have always used organic pads I like how they work

 

[1911]

My experience is thus: you can get aftermarket pads that will stop better or last longer, but they also wear down your rotors faster. Pads are cheaper to replace than rotors, so I just use stock ones. YMMV.

 

[Buliwyf]

Yeah the yellow pads do eat the rotors faster. But that has been a non issue for me. Even when I autocross or open track the Mach. It gives me a good excuse to replace the rotors before I waste another set of fresh pads on it.

The yellow EBC pads also squeel and dust bad for the first 5-10,000 miles. They're all about performance, not smoothness or dust free operation.

My truck brakes often last 100,000 miles anyways. That's about 5-7 years for me. (co. vehicle on weekdays) So replacing rotors is no big deal. You kinda have to figure out how far you want to go based on your own needs.

I usually avoid the slotted cross drilled rotors. Unless they're Stoptech or better, the real deal racing rotors. Aka: $$$$$$$$. The cheapish replacement rotors that are cross drilled and slotted have never seemed to work for me. Just too many blingy snake oil rotors out there. The good stuff costs serious $$$, and the regular brakes seem better off with a regular smooth face.

I notice this alot in grass roots racing circuits. Many people seem to be avoiding fancy brakes and are running smooth face Brembos everywhere, right up to the point where they are running extremely expensive brakes. Then I see cross drilled and slotted, even carbon rotors.

I have no idea why there is such a gap between stock car brake technology and full on race brakes, and not much in between.....yet.