Jimbo, you running sliders or steel bumpers?
The OP is running neither. Also with jeepers you can Jack directly from the frame on the factory plastics. Just have to be careful. He can't do that on his d1
-Sam
Hi-lift on rear bumper
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Jimbo, you running sliders or steel bumpers?
The OP is running neither. Also with jeepers you can Jack directly from the frame on the factory plastics. Just have to be careful. He can't do that on his d1
-Sam
JIMBO
Expedition Leader
:sombrero: Yup-I honestly can't imagine an off-road vehicle without those very same attributes and I've had a BUNCH !!
If you're gonna play with match's, ya better be prepared for a fire !!
:costumed-smiley-007:wings: JIMBO
If you're gonna play with match's, ya better be prepared for a fire !!
:costumed-smiley-007:wings: JIMBO
Jimbo, I like the military trailer build. Been following your builds for a while.
In terms of playing with matches, some people take advice and others don't. Some don't have a lot of knowledge and still don't listen.
Its all fun and games till a hilift rips off your pretty little fender or your vehicle sides off it.
Ive had my rig slide off before in the mud even when using a Jack base. It's easier than you think. A little turn of the wheel and next thing you know your bent something or worse.
-Sam
In terms of playing with matches, some people take advice and others don't. Some don't have a lot of knowledge and still don't listen.
Its all fun and games till a hilift rips off your pretty little fender or your vehicle sides off it.
Ive had my rig slide off before in the mud even when using a Jack base. It's easier than you think. A little turn of the wheel and next thing you know your bent something or worse.
-Sam
Nonimouse
Cynical old bastard
Bless you chap, I do so love to be told stuff; and I do so appreciate you helping.
I know a bit about rock salt - we use it here occasionally. Regular maintainance will prevent too rust and keep the jack moving
If you look carefully at the back of his truck he has a tow hitch - never lifted and slewed off a hitch? No - hey you haven't lived. True if you want to change a wheel it's as much use as a chocolate teapot; but that's his experience to find out and he is in about as much danger walking round a truck looking for a jacking point as I am in a padded cell with eating blancmange with a straw.
As for your point three, a nice point, a good point and one I succinctly described in my previous post; my thanks for bringing it up again as it's a very pertinent point and one that should be held up for all to see
Once again my thanks and my very best wishes to you and yours.
With all due respect, I would not recommend jacking up the truck from the rear hitch especially to change a tire.
1. You have to Jack up the entire rear end of the truck vs just one corner. This is inherently more dangerous and prone to slipping
2. The OP is unlikely to use straps to limit damage caused by hi lift sliding out
3. The only time to even consider jacking from a rear tow hitch is if you are high centered and have nowhere else to Jack.
4. Changing a tire where that entire axle is off the ground is about the riskiest thing you can do.
The force required to Jack one corner off the ground is considerably less than the force required to lift the entire rig off the ground. You are playing with fire here.
To your last point prevention is far better than cure. I wouldn't leave a tool out in the elements even if I did maintain it regularly. Why have the added concern that it could fail. Especially on the trail. Or worse still even if youndo maintain it and get into some mud on an extended trip, the mechanism could seize. Not something you want to deal with. If we all focused on prevention as opposed to cure we wouldn't have as many breakdowns and casualties when exploring.
Additionally if you want to elucidate the finer points of maintaining a hilift to the OP be my guest. Know that most people with hilifts don't service them. And those that do service them often don't permanently mount them outside on a low hanging rear bumper.
-Sam
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R_Lefebvre
Expedition Leader
I helped a guy out last fall with my HiLift. I don't know what he did, but I found an S-10 on the side of the road, missing his wheel with the rear brake drum in the dirt and a bunch of broken studs. He couldn't get the drum out of the dirt with the factory bottle jack, because it was too high to get under the axle. The jack didn't lift high enough to to lift the frame. He was stuck. I stopped and we used the Hi-Lift, no problem.
Your missing the point...having something to attach the jack is just as important as having one...and I love the fact you guys just blow off the fact that they are dangerous and especially when they are rusted hunks of crap because they were stored outside on a vehicle because it looks cool...whatever
Nonimouse
Cynical old bastard
Thank you
R_Lefebvre
Expedition Leader
The guy jacked off his hitch. I let him do it, he was a farmer and actually uses them all the time. It worked fine for what we had to do.
Yes, they're dangerous, we all know that. Some of us know how to use them safely. Lots of people do, actually. That's why they are still on the market.
(Some people even use recovery hooks too. In fact, Jeep still builds them on new JK's.
) I was just working inside a live 600V electrical cabinet. That's dangerous too. But I'm trained on how to do it safely.Not to mention, the OP has repeatedly said, he intends to leave it in the garage most of the time, and only carry it when he's going on a trail. So the rusted hunks of crap comment is sort of unfounded.
bat
Explorer
Back in 1975 :Wow1: we did not have sliders and all the cool bumper crap. We did have a high lift and did use it to get us out of trouble. Be smart and give yourself in out in case something does happen. If you have not used one don't wait till you have to try it in the driveway to figure it out.
I Leak Oil
Expedition Leader
Ah yes, but back in 75' trucks had real, metal, squarish bumpers that were made to support the vehicle via a factory bumper jack. Jeeps had a C-channel metal front bumper, no rear bumper but a nice flat cross member to jack on. Just all around more suited to a "farm jack" as they were called.
The "farm jack" could be used to winch you up hill, in 4 feet of snow, in both directions and you liked it!
Just bustin' ya bat...
David Harris
Expedition Leader
Here's my advice Mongo, say this ten more times, so you can get it out of your system . You'll feel so much better . . . :ylsmoke:
David Harris
Expedition Leader
Ever heard of I thing called a lift-mate, Mongo? I use one to lift my truck without jack points. There's a recent post on the forums about it with lots of posts from members. I hope the concept is not too confusing for you. There's even a picture . . .
yep, heard of one, have one, sitting in the pelican case with the jack part of the hi-lift. I bolted the bar from the hi-lift to the roll-cage in my D2 to strap down said pelicans...
Unlike your truck, mine has over 50k in overland/expedition travel. What's the longest trip you've taken? I've done 2 or 3 12 to 14k trips and never have had a need to use one. Last one was 1500 miles in the baja, totally self-suffiecient. I've been doing this for a long before it was popular and really careless what you think...
What's really sad is some of the comments posted here will do nothing more than get you in trouble...