Hi-lift on rear bumper

David Harris

Expedition Leader
Some mud doesn't come off. My truck is still reddish brown from the NC clay that I wheeled in twice at uwharrie. No pressure washing will ever take it off.

True wheeling leaves pinstripes and lots of other tell tale signs. Your tires and particularly your side walls don't show evidence of hard and sustained wheeling.

-Sam

Can't see any of that from the picture . . . Small defects don't show up well in pictures, especially on white paint. Don't live in NC. Got a trick for you on the mud, though. Spray your truck down with the tire cleaner first. Takes even the toughest mud off easily, even dried on for days. Just repainted the bumper, hitch and endcaps. The jack is new, and I haven't had to use it yet. Come look at the truck in person and you will be surprised . . . It is definitely showing the wear (160K miles), but I have spent time renewing it this Summer. It does look pretty good from that angle, though . . . All in all, though, your right, I bought this truck two years ago and have used it mostly as just a daily driver, because I still had my built CJ5 to wheel in. However, I just sold my CJ5 earlier this year and that's why I'm starting to build this up now. The trip to Colorado was my first extended off road journey in the Disco.

Thanks for your concern, anyway . . .
 
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AxeAngel

Expedition Leader

Come wash my truck and prove me wrong. Ask someone from the southeast what the GA/SC/NC mud is like. It stains...

I wish it weren't true.

Clarification: the mud residue isn't on my paint. It's on my undercarriage, wheel wells, sidewalls, everywhere without a smooth surface.

-Sam
 
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wow

So, moral of the story: hi lift in front, top, inside, or in garage?

And use liberal amounts of tire cleaner on paint job.

I have to agree with Sam on the 4000km Colorado wheeling, that sounds like hyperbole for dramatic effect. I'm just saying...
 

David Harris

Expedition Leader
I have to agree with Sam on the 4000km Colorado wheeling, that sounds like hyperbole for dramatic effect. I'm just saying...

Less so than Mongo saying he's been on several 15K off road expeditions.

Wasn't off-road the whole 4,000 miles though, of course, only several hundred.

So are we down to proving whether our trips are real now?

:ylsmoke:
 

Nonimouse

Cynical old bastard
Come on guys, less of the p*ss*ing competition here. That's not what this forums about. Lets play nice. Apart from oneor two folks typing a reply without reading the previous post properly this has been a reasonable thread.

Life is too complicated to argue about how well a vehicle was washed or what mud was driven through where or when.

To answer SA77's question; in is best, top is okay but make sure it's secure and easy to remove, back and front are okay if you maintain properly; in the garage is guaranteed the safest place. In the long run it's all about maintainenece of the pins, springs, slide and lock. A strip, rub down with very fine emery (if rusty), light spray with silicon water repellant and then with a chain lube spray grease or paint with chainsaw oil (veg base) is the simplest way. Do it on a regular basis like greasing props or checking bearings
 

SpencerFitch

Observer
Come wash my truck and prove me wrong. Ask someone from the southeast what the GA/SC/NC mud is like. It stains...

I wish it weren't true.

Clarification: the mud residue isn't on my paint. It's on my undercarriage, wheel wells, sidewalls, everywhere without a smooth surface.

-Sam
Ok the underside of the vehicle I partially believe.

But you can see his undercarriage, wheel wells, sidewalls and such in that picture of his?
 

muskyman

Explorer
Ever heard of a car wash? You put your money in and a nice stream of pressurized water comes out. It washes the mud and dirt off after you have been off road . . . I highly recommend it to keep your vehicle in top shape . . .

But seriously, I actually had just returned from a 4000 mile off-road trip in Colorado and I shot this right after coming from the car wash. Took me 10.00 to get all the crud off the vehicle and jack. I guess I should have left all the mud and crap all over it like my Jeeper acquaintances, and also you Muskyman, I presume. Do you ever wash your truck, or do you leave it dirty all the time to prove that you are a real off-roader?

What a statement to make, anyway, LOL . . .

really?...4000 off road miles...I call BS

post some pics and show I am wrong, I figure if you can take all kinds of pics of a high lift on a bumper in a driveway you should have hundreds from a 4000 miles of off road in a single trip. :D
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
The OP also claims he flips it over when off roading yet the jack is spotless brand new and the truck clearly has never been off road.

Maybe he just bought it? I don't know.

There are a lot of "elite" forum posters around here with brand new looking gear. Trying to judge people based on photos of their stuff is pretty specious at best.

Kinda like the "countless water crossings" ...well one countless water crossing cost you your trans after you were told it would now didnt it? LOL :D

Oh please. You do not get to come in here now and say "I told you so" because you never did. You just offered up your typical vague post "don't go in water, or *something* bad will happen. Your warnings are as vague as Nostradamus, just as your "tech help". I can remove an engine in 2 hours. Yeah, that's great. Thanks.

I get out and use my truck. These are the conditions I have to deal with. **** happens. Could have been worse. At least I didn't lose the whole truck. :coffee:

In the end forums are about trying to save people from themselves...but in the end few listen. They just continue to spew garbage and then after awhile they expose the truth that they really have no concept of what they have been posting about.

You say this a lot. But you're continuously told, change your delivery and you might actually get more people listening to you. But, contrary to your claims, you don't post to actually help anybody.
 

David Harris

Expedition Leader
really?...4000 off road miles...I call BS

post some pics and show I am wrong, I figure if you can take all kinds of pics of a high lift on a bumper in a driveway you should have hundreds from a 4000 miles of off road in a single trip. :D

The least you can do is read my previous posts on the thread before replying. Why don't you go back and do that if this matters so much to you? The Dwebbers have definitely brought their style to this thread, that's for sure. Then after hearing a counter opinion, they go back over to Dweb and whine incessantly about how gay Expo, is etc, and how they come over here just for the entertainment of reading the lame posts and advice. Blah, blah, blah . . .

And the bottom line is that your posts here have offered absolutely nothing of value at all, Muskyman. And more often than not this is the case.
 
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R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
Some mud doesn't come off. My truck is still reddish brown from the NC clay that I wheeled in twice at uwharrie. No pressure washing will ever take it off.

I somewhat agree. When mud gets baked onto cast aluminum, it's nearly impossible to get the stain off. The mud is in the pores of the casting. This happens to a less extent with painted steel or plastic. You can get the mud off, but it never does look clean.

Actually no, scratch that. I know pro enduro riders who somehow get their bikes looking showroom clean before every event. I don't exactly no how, but it involves a toothbrush.

I have found that brake cleaner can clean the aluminum pretty well.

True wheeling leaves pinstripes and lots of other tell tale signs. Your tires and particularly your side walls don't show evidence of hard and sustained wheeling.

Again, somewhat agree. But it also depends on what your definition of off-roading it. Some areas really don't have many trees. Around here, it's unavoidable. Also, not everybody here goes "wheeling". Some just stick to dirt roads, where pinstriping is not likely.
 

mongosd2

Adventurer
Ever heard of a car wash? You put your money in and a nice stream of pressurized water comes out. It washes the mud and dirt off after you have been off road . . . I highly recommend it to keep your vehicle in top shape . . .

But seriously, I actually had just returned from a 4000 mile off-road trip in Colorado and I shot this right after coming from the car wash. Took me 10.00 to get all the crud off the vehicle and jack. I guess I should have left all the mud and crap all over it like my Jeeper acquaintances, and also you Muskyman, I presume. Do you ever wash your truck, or do you leave it dirty all the time to prove that you are a real off-roader?

What a statement to make, anyway, LOL . . .

I guess where Thom is coming from is that you've spouted off on everything from hi-lifts to engine swaps, but no threads about your lastest adventure...

go here, to see where we've been...www.roxs.us
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
Mongo, so you're in that group? Nice photos. I was curious about the Rupert River trip. Where exactly were the trails you were on? Most of them don't look like northern Quebec, so I guess they were on the way in Ontario or SW Quebec. Seriously, wondering where they are, they look pretty good. Do you have any track or route map from the trip? I've tried looking at the forum before, but they're member only view.

But this is interesting:

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Is that a HiLift? Mounted outside? ;)

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Using a HiLift to change a tire or what?

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mongosd2

Adventurer
have some gps tracks...and gotta look at the notes to get the exact trails...

here's the difference, the hi-lifts mounted on a rack, up high, out of the way. And it's for a 2 or 3 week trip , not a drive to the mall on a stock bumper. But that's not my truck. I have mine bolted to the roll cage, with the jack and other recovery parts and pieces in pelican cases...

If you look at the second pic we used a bottle jack to change the brakes. In the 3rd, the lift is being used on a slider to lift the truck...so do they get used, yes, with proper lifting points...
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
Ok, let me know about the tracks. Looks like it was a great trip, long distance to check out the Rupert with some trails thrown in.
 

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