Hi-lift on rear bumper

David Harris

Expedition Leader
yep, heard of one, have one, sitting in the pelican case with the jack part of the hi-lift. I bolted the bar from the hi-lift to the roll-cage in my D2 to strap down said pelicans...

Unlike your truck, mine has over 50k in overland/expedition travel. What's the longest trip you've taken? I've done 2 or 3 12 to 14k trips and never have had a need to use one. Last one was 1500 miles in the baja, totally self-suffiecient. I've been doing this for a long before it was popular and really careless what you think...

What's really sad is some of the comments posted here will do nothing more than get you in trouble...

My point is simply that you can use the lift-mate to safely lift the truck without having other places to jack from. I've tried to get this point across to you many times on this thread, but you just dismiss it like it doesn't even exist.
 

mongosd2

Adventurer
My point is simply that you can use the lift-mate to safely lift the truck without having other places to jack from. I've tried to get this point across to you many times on this thread, but you just dismiss it like it doesn't even exist.

What your not understanding that is really not a good idea or a good tool...and I back this up with years of doing this and picking up the pieces from people have gotten injured from using one...

whatever, let us know when the hi-lifts slips and drops your truck...


i'm done
 

Hill Bill E.

Oath Keeper
What your not understanding that is really not a good idea or a good tool...and I back this up with years of doing this and picking up the pieces from people have gotten injured from using one...

whatever, let us know when the hi-lifts slips and drops your truck...


i'm done

And I'm glad!

If the Hi-Lift is such a dangerous, God forsaken tool, then why, dear man, do you have one?? Especially since you never have used it?

Oh, I forgot, you are the ultimate explorer, with a gazillion miles of driving under your belt.:Wow1:

The man asked for advice, not a lecture.

Just becuase you don't like using a Hi-Lift, doesn't mean that no one should use one. Used properly, they are a safe tool.

It would have sufficed to say "No, I don't think carrying your Hi-Lift on the rear bumper is a good idea, it will collect a lot of dirt/grime/etc."

HB
 

mongosd2

Adventurer
And I'm glad!

If the Hi-Lift is such a dangerous, God forsaken tool, then why, dear man, do you have one?? Especially since you never have used it?

Oh, I forgot, you are the ultimate explorer, with a gazillion miles of driving under your belt.:Wow1:

The man asked for advice, not a lecture.

Just becuase you don't like using a Hi-Lift, doesn't mean that no one should use one. Used properly, they are a safe tool.

It would have sufficed to say "No, I don't think carrying your Hi-Lift on the rear bumper is a good idea, it will collect a lot of dirt/grime/etc."

HB

hope you get popped in the jaw by it so you'll learn something from something called actual experience...

never claimed to be the ultimate explorer...
 

JIMBO

Expedition Leader
:sombrero: This is really a shame, the HiLift "tool" has beem used for over 80 years and people are still treating it like smoking pot-

I've used mine, for over 35 years and my HiLift was more usefull in DEEP snow that a shovel !!

Some people just like to nitpick-like a standard tranny is SO much better than an Auto-off-road==PULEEZE growup !!

:costumed-smiley-007:bike_rider: JIMBO
 

Hill Bill E.

Oath Keeper
hope you get popped in the jaw by it so you'll learn something from something called actual experience......


Not likely to happen. I learned the proper way to use one many years ago. And have used them for over 30 years with no problems.




never claimed to be the ultimate explorer

No? I guess this confused me.

Unlike your truck, mine has over 50k in overland/expedition travel. What's the longest trip you've taken? I've done 2 or 3 12 to 14k trips...
 

R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
This is really a shame, the HiLift "tool" has beem used for over 80 years and people are still treating it like smoking pot-

That's doubly funny, since pot is so harmless. Or maybe that was your point? ;)
 

mongosd2

Adventurer
Not likely to happen. I learned the proper way to use one many years ago. And have used them for over 30 years with no problems.






No? I guess this confused me.

it shouldn't...just explaining where the experience comes from. No claims of being the ultimate explorer and could really careless what you think
 

JEFFSGTP

Observer
To OP,

All the griping aside, I suggest getting this:
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http://www.hi-lift.com/accessories/jack-protector.html

It says it's waterproof, but does leave the non-mechanism end open on the 60" model...either way like was previously said...inspect and keep lubricated regularly even with the above cover on...No one knows your rig but you...if you are confident/competent in its use and know how your rig is setup and what will work on your rig and what won't and have no problems using it safely with your rig...PISS on everyone else...its YOUR rig, NOT THEIRS....this thread is starting to remind me of ****web :( Everyone griping about it...I don't think you ask anyone about how/where to use it on your rig, just about its mounting...and yet know one (till me) attempted to direct you to any accessory or product to help you protect it (although one did mention a cover).
 

Alaska Mike

ExPo Moderator/Eye Candy
HiLifts are a dangerous tool, but it's one I consider a trade-off. There are circumstances where it is the worst tool for the job and others where it is the best tool for the job. If I can get away without using mine and instead use something like a bottle jack, I do so. However, there are times when its capabilities are second to none, so I can justify the extra weight and space it requires.

I've watched where they have let loose, even when the person operating them did everything "by the book". Sometimes a pin doesn't fully seat due to a little dirt, sometimes the vehicle's weight shifts for one reason or another... anytime you play with that much weight on that small of a lifting platform, things can go wrong. That's why I consider jack stands and wheel chocks required accessories for a HiLift. The less time the jack is supporting the vehicle, the better.

When I lived in Florida, I kept my mechanism separate from the jack, well-lubricated, clean, and dry in an ammo can inside the vehicle after seeing what the salt air was doing to the pins. When I lived in the desert, I didn't worry about it too much and just periodically cleaned or rebuilt it. Now I keep mine bolted upside down on my jamboree rack, with the mechanism covered in plastic and a canvas bag. Different environments, different approaches...
 

rezdiver

Adventurer
any tool can be dangerous if not used properly, you just have to be comfortable with your ability to use them
please note that for safety the rear wheel has been blocked to prevent rolling. lol.:)
 

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muskyman

Explorer
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Not to mention, the OP has repeatedly said, he intends to leave it in the garage most of the time, and only carry it when he's going on a trail. So the rusted hunks of crap comment is sort of unfounded.

The OP also claims he flips it over when off roading yet the jack is spotless brand new and the truck clearly has never been off road.

The guy most likely is a newbie that has zero knowledge of whats what and Frank has been trying to help him.

Kinda like the "countless water crossings" ...well one countless water crossing cost you your trans after you were told it would now didnt it? LOL :D

In the end forums are about trying to save people from themselves...but in the end few listen. They just continue to spew garbage and then after awhile they expose the truth that they really have no concept of what they have been posting about.

The OP is clueless and the rear bumper has and always will be a poor place to mount a high lift.

oh yeah...they are also dangerous
 

David Harris

Expedition Leader
The OP also claims he flips it over when off roading yet the jack is spotless brand new and the truck clearly has never been off road.

Ever heard of a car wash? You put your money in and a nice stream of pressurized water comes out. It washes the mud and dirt off after you have been off road . . . I highly recommend it to keep your vehicle in top shape . . .

But seriously, I actually had just returned from a 4000 mile off-road trip in Colorado and I shot this right after coming from the car wash. Took me 10.00 to get all the crud off the vehicle and jack. I guess I should have left all the mud and crap all over it like my Jeeper acquaintances, and also you Muskyman, I presume. Do you ever wash your truck, or do you leave it dirty all the time to prove that you are a real off-roader?

What a statement to make, anyway, LOL . . .
 
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David Harris

Expedition Leader
After all the feedback here and on other forums, I have decided that when I carry the jack on trips, I will take the jacking mechanism, base, everything but the bar, and carry it inside. I'll put the bar alone on the rear bumper until I have a better place to put it, i.e. ARB, roof-rack, etc.

Thanks for all the opinions. They helped a lot!

David
 

AxeAngel

Expedition Leader
Ever heard of a car wash? You put your money in and a nice stream of pressurized water comes out. It washes the mud and dirt off after you have been off road . . . I highly recommend it to keep your vehicle in top shape . . .

But seriously, I actually had just returned from a 4000 mile off-road trip in Colorado and I shot this right after coming from the car wash. Took me 10.00 to get all the crud off the vehicle and jack. I guess I should have left all the mud and crap all over it like my Jeeper acquaintances, and also you Muskyman, I presume. Do you ever wash your truck, or do you leave it dirty all the time to prove that you are a real off-roader?

What a statement to make, anyway, LOL . . .

Some mud doesn't come off. My truck is still reddish brown from the NC clay that I wheeled in twice at uwharrie. No pressure washing will ever take it off.

True wheeling leaves pinstripes and lots of other tell tale signs. Your tires and particularly your side walls don't show evidence of hard and sustained wheeling.

4000miles is a lot of miles offroad. You could drive across the continent and almost back with that many miles. No I don't mean any disrespect but if you have wheeled for 4k miles wouldn't you know how to use a hilift. And wouldn't you know on the back bumper is a piss poor location. Wouldn't you also know how a liftmate works and spoken to people or read up on it. Either you had zero offroad knowledge before your 4000mile trip or something is off.

Also taking that long a journey without a winch and relyig solely on your hilift would entail knowing every minute detail on it's use and on it's use as a winch. It isn't easy to use as a winch or easy to setup as a winch. You would thus know that those climbing pins are the differnce between recovery or a really bad day and you wouldn't store your jack outside. For a 4k offroad journey you would be foolish to not have a considerable amount of offroad knowledge. Unfortunately your posts and comments do not reflect this.

Sometimes when you find yourself digging a hole you need to put down the shovel.
-Sam
 
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