05-07 Tacoma Snorkel Thread
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Dave Bennett
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AlexJet said:
:iagree:
AlexJet said:There was 1 135 snorkel installed into 4Runner and the guy mentioned of some difficulties.
Zolo, did you experience any problems in installation like bending it with a heatgun and ajusting gaps?
How does your snorkel looks from this side?
I would like to know this as well.
On a side note, it's a damn shame that new Tacoma and 4Runner owners have to "make do" with a Safari Snorkel 135 whilst the FJ (which hasn't been around as long or sold as many units) got one instantly, and it is specifically for the 1GR-FE 4.0.
Tacoma and 4Runner owners here in America are not happy with Safari Snorkel.
Safari Snorkel, are you listening?
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heeltoe989
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TACODOC said:
X2!!!!!
I'm sick of the FJ getting all the new cool parts. Not too sound winy but an FJ would be the last overland rig I would choose.
A stock Tacoma is a better wheeler and has a tougher rear suspension. A friend of mine has one and him and I went out and he broke a rear trailing arm about 50yrds into the trail.
I love the old LAND CRUSIERS!!!!!, the new FJ is not a cruiser.
Dave Bennett
Adventurist
AlexJet said:
Exactly my point. Hello Safari Snorkel!?!?!
Overland Hadley
on a journey
TACODOC said:
x4
heeltoe989
Explorer
TACODOC said:
Maybe upper management should give there head a shake
Wake up and give the consumers what they want.
Not that I need one right now, because everything ounce of water is frozen but I just love the look of them and I would like one.
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zolo
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no heat bending and what nots
So Ive been slaking on getting pics up. Working moving some more. Yadda Yadda.
To answer some questions no I did not have to do any bending, with heat or other wise. The pics are on this thread from theout side as far as the135 outer body goes it fits well, just about perfect. The biggest pain was inside the fender. This was the tightest spot. It did take somwork and the use of a piece of 90 deg. PVC. Like I wrote before the V6 in my opinion should be mouch easier due to the fact that the air box is not right on the fender next to the fire wall hole. I also wote that the V6 and 4 have the same location for this hole.
I have spoken to ARB about this in detail for the reason they have not made a perfect Tacoma Snorkel and they say the market is just not there. If you look at the citys back east most tacomas sold are prerunners, no mass market there, If you look at the Tacomas out west many are 4x4 out of need notwant, a handfull are being used for "our" type driving. very small percentage.
Its all about the money.
If folks are really interested in a snorkel the 135 is it, I am sure there will be varients to how people match them to the air box but he thing fits. thats just it. buy one and you will be able to see. my pics on this thread are very detailed and I think are a tru acount for how it looks.
So Ive been slaking on getting pics up. Working moving some more. Yadda Yadda.
To answer some questions no I did not have to do any bending, with heat or other wise. The pics are on this thread from theout side as far as the135 outer body goes it fits well, just about perfect. The biggest pain was inside the fender. This was the tightest spot. It did take somwork and the use of a piece of 90 deg. PVC. Like I wrote before the V6 in my opinion should be mouch easier due to the fact that the air box is not right on the fender next to the fire wall hole. I also wote that the V6 and 4 have the same location for this hole.
I have spoken to ARB about this in detail for the reason they have not made a perfect Tacoma Snorkel and they say the market is just not there. If you look at the citys back east most tacomas sold are prerunners, no mass market there, If you look at the Tacomas out west many are 4x4 out of need notwant, a handfull are being used for "our" type driving. very small percentage.
Its all about the money.
If folks are really interested in a snorkel the 135 is it, I am sure there will be varients to how people match them to the air box but he thing fits. thats just it. buy one and you will be able to see. my pics on this thread are very detailed and I think are a tru acount for how it looks.
zolo said:
Zolo,
Thanks for pioneering this. Based on your experience with the Tacoma, I decided to try with my 06 4Runner. Some of my pics were posted by Alex earlier. I don't think it fits the 4Runner quite as well (different fender shape), so I needed to mold it a bit with a heat gun. But the inside was not too difficult (like you said, more room to work on the V6). Some more of my observations are in this thread:
http://www.toyota120.com/forum/showthread.php?p=32042#post32042
broc
zolo
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jbs
I checked out the pics. I went to your thread on the other site, and yes I believe the runner fender is a bit different. But your pics show more room in the inner fender than on the Tacoma, witch is nice.
While the 135 fit perfect to the Tacoma on the out side my biggest challenges were inside the fender. I was able to make my connection to the airbox in a similar way to yours.
It looks good though. the anntena not being in the pass side of the runner does show off the indention that the 135 has for it. I have to say, it looks good overall. You are the other pioner for the runner folks.
I really think that there will be different connection ways. but the 135 seems to be the right one to start with.
If anyone else wants to do this read this thread and read my suggestions for fitment , I did use the template but in a different manner than the instructions want. You do have to find the correct location with the studs in and only mark and drill those 2 holes then place the template up and drill the rest off of those holes, its pretty fun if you like to build and think.
I checked out the pics. I went to your thread on the other site, and yes I believe the runner fender is a bit different. But your pics show more room in the inner fender than on the Tacoma, witch is nice.
While the 135 fit perfect to the Tacoma on the out side my biggest challenges were inside the fender. I was able to make my connection to the airbox in a similar way to yours.
It looks good though. the anntena not being in the pass side of the runner does show off the indention that the 135 has for it. I have to say, it looks good overall. You are the other pioner for the runner folks.
I really think that there will be different connection ways. but the 135 seems to be the right one to start with.
If anyone else wants to do this read this thread and read my suggestions for fitment , I did use the template but in a different manner than the instructions want. You do have to find the correct location with the studs in and only mark and drill those 2 holes then place the template up and drill the rest off of those holes, its pretty fun if you like to build and think.
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AlexJet
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zolo said:
Zolo, I have '05 4Runner V6 and I want to get SS125HF from new Hilux and SS135HF from previous on. As soon as I'd have both, I'll try to fit them and see which one better fit 4Runner fender. Then I'll install one and will return the other one. I'm on the call with supplier about this. If they have SS125HF in stock, I can do it this month.
zolo
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runner fender
After looking at pics of the runner fender compared to the 05+ Tacoma fender it looks like the area from the top of the fender flare to the top of the fender on the runner is smaller.
There seems to be more space on the tacoma. also there is a horizontal body line {angle} on the tacoma that the runner does not appear to have from what I can tell from the pics.
Id say if you find a better fit for the runner good on ya as for the tacoma the 135 still seems to be a good match
Ive loooked at them all on the S.S. blue print page and there does not appear to be a better match for the Tacoma, it has the correct angle for the winshield and the correct length for the inner fender and it has the indention for the anntena that is on the Pass side of the Tacoma.
Also with all this talk about there being a diesel Tacoma in the future, barring Toyota not changing the body there is currently a SS135HF\D availible
{D for Diesel}. This could be a good thing if the air intake is still in a pass side when that truck comes out.
If you do find the 125 a better fit for the runners than the 135 share it to the runner thread they seam to be having the same discussion the tacoma folks are. good luck
After looking at pics of the runner fender compared to the 05+ Tacoma fender it looks like the area from the top of the fender flare to the top of the fender on the runner is smaller.
There seems to be more space on the tacoma. also there is a horizontal body line {angle} on the tacoma that the runner does not appear to have from what I can tell from the pics.
Id say if you find a better fit for the runner good on ya as for the tacoma the 135 still seems to be a good match
Ive loooked at them all on the S.S. blue print page and there does not appear to be a better match for the Tacoma, it has the correct angle for the winshield and the correct length for the inner fender and it has the indention for the anntena that is on the Pass side of the Tacoma.
Also with all this talk about there being a diesel Tacoma in the future, barring Toyota not changing the body there is currently a SS135HF\D availible
{D for Diesel}. This could be a good thing if the air intake is still in a pass side when that truck comes out.
If you do find the 125 a better fit for the runners than the 135 share it to the runner thread they seam to be having the same discussion the tacoma folks are. good luck
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cruiseroutfit
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heeltoe989 said:
Guys... you love your chosen rigs as overland rigs, I don't blame you, the Tacoma and 4Runners are excellent platforms. However, there is a reason the FJC is getting 10x's the product coverage... it has 15x's the market IMO. The number of vehicles sold honestly means nothing... its all about the number of vehicle owners wanting to install a snorkel, bumpers, etc. Do you think Safari Snorkel is honestly in a conspiracy to tout the FJC as a better off-road rig than the Tacoma
My perspective (also biased towards the proven Tacoma platform), the FJC market is waaaaay stronger than the Tacoma/4Runner market will ever be. The users that are buying FJC's mods as such. I get faaaaar more calls for FJC components than I do for Tacomas or 4Runners, sure there are a few die-hards that are building Taco's/4Runners (I have done extensive builds on both recently). Its nothing compared to the FJC stuff... and I know for a fact other shops are getting the same response. You should have seen SEMA, the FJC for a second year in a row stole the show, countless companies using the FJC as their show platform, offering their line of accessories. All these companies can't be wrong
However, I truly hope the aftermarket sector catches up a bit with the new gen Toyotas, it helps us all out