LC/LR4Life
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Dropping the FJC from the line is a mistake in my opinion.
LC/LR4Life said:Dropping the FJC from the line is a mistake in my opinion.
SinCityFJC said:I have one & it has the inner fender bulges w/fractures - waiting to see if 3rd redesign actually fixes the design flaw. This combined with economic/market issues may be the end of the FJ Cruiser.
DBS311 said:I'm probably one of the few that hope the FJC dies. It would be cool if the 4Runner continued to get more of the "offroad" options that the FJC has enjoyed. Not trying to flame the FJC, I just think the 4Runner makes more sense as it has proper doors and visibility.
Backwoods Rambler said:I thought they did in the Trail Edition?
Trail Edition
4RUNNER TRAIL EDITION PACKAGE
All new for 2009, the Trail Edition is based on the rugged SR5. The package features an Electronic Locking Rear Differential and a Torsen® limited-slip center differential with locking feature. Also included are Bilstein® shocks, unique 16-inch, 5-spoke aluminum alloy wheels, distinctive black-painted tubular side steps and roof rack, and a color-keyed grille. To complete the package, there's a TomTom® [1] Personal Navigation Device [2], so you'll know precisely when you reach the middle of nowhere.
Too bad it's V6 Only.....BOOOOO...Offer those options with the V8 and i'd have my next rig picked out, which is why Jeep gets my nod with the Grand Cherokee Overland, although I would prefer if the GC had lockable diffs instead of the LSD's
teotwaki said:The locking center diff is already available but the rear locking axle is not.
teotwaki said:The VSC disable will also be added.
teotwaki said:The offered tubular side steps are worthless .....
teotwaki said:Who knows if the 4Runer will last past 2010...
Backwoods Rambler said:So not much of an upgrade there I guess
Backwoods Rambler said:To what, the Trail Edition? I didn't read this anywhere??
Backwoods Rambler said:Naturally, since this is sold as a Mall Crawler to the masses instead of what it truely can be...
Backwoods Rambler said:That's a real shame, replaced by what??
Backwoods Rambler said:So not much of an upgrade there I guess
lathamb said:I think it is a substantial upgrade. Open diff versus a locker? Big difference.
teotwaki said:The locking Torsen center diff is not a new offering. It has been available since the 2003 launch, therefore it is not an upgrade for 2009
lathamb said:The locking rear axle is the upgrade, not the center. That is a big upgrade in my book. If you couldn't lock the center on a 4x4, that would be just silly.
jingram said:It is interesting reading a number of posts about guys wanting to merge the 4runner and the FJ or for toyota to put out a "proper" midsize truck?
Am I the only one that looks at an FJ or a Tacoma or a 4runner these days and wonders why they have balooned into roughly the same size as mid 80s Suburbans?
I for one miss "compact" pickup trucks and SUVs that used to be marketed by Toyota and Nissan and at the time Isuzu and Mitsubishi, not to mention Ford and Chevy with the Ranger/Bronco II and the S10/Blazer respectively. It just seems very strange to me not to simply revive one of the earlier designs size wise with updated sheet metal and a fuel efficient diesel or midsize 4 banger and call it good. I for one would be all over it.
Don't get me wrong, I enjoy having that extra bit of room and the extra power that these larger models afford. Hell, the Frontier/Xterra and the FJ/Tacoma both have lovely 4.0 liter V6s that are GREAT motors, but I hold onto my first gen xterra because I don't like how "fat" these new vehicles have become.
As it was, it was very hard for me to move from my Hardbody and our 85 Isuzu Trooper to the Xterra.
That all being said, I really like the looks of this SEMA FJ, although an ARB RR would look much better on it along with OEM steelies, but as others have said, visibility just sucks in them and it is in some ways very unfortunate they did FT 4wd in the manual transmission models.
jingram said:Am I the only one that looks at an FJ or a Tacoma or a 4runner these days and wonders why they have balooned into roughly the same size as mid 80s Suburbans?
snip - I don't like how "fat" these new vehicles have become.