2009 FJ Cruiser SE at SEMA

SinCityFJC

Adventurer
LC/LR4Life said:
Dropping the FJC from the line is a mistake in my opinion.

I have one & it has the inner fender bulges w/fractures - waiting to see if 3rd redesign actually fixes the design flaw. This combined with economic/market issues may be the end of the FJ Cruiser.
 

esh

Explorer
They should just take what we saw at 2007 SEMA and sell it. I can't believe they wouldn't sell like hotcakes-

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LC/LR4Life

Adventurer
SinCityFJC said:
I have one & it has the inner fender bulges w/fractures - waiting to see if 3rd redesign actually fixes the design flaw. This combined with economic/market issues may be the end of the FJ Cruiser.

I had one of the earliest ones ordered from Japan, and mine never developed those cracks/bulges in the inside of the engine bay. I don't see what the problem with that is, it doesn't detract from the outer appearance. Mine wheeled great off road, and it impressed a lot of people in stock form with what it could do with those cheap tires Toyota shoed it with.
 
DBS311 said:
I'm probably one of the few that hope the FJC dies. It would be cool if the 4Runner continued to get more of the "offroad" options that the FJC has enjoyed. Not trying to flame the FJC, I just think the 4Runner makes more sense as it has proper doors and visibility.

I thought they did in the Trail Edition?

Trail Edition

4RUNNER TRAIL EDITION PACKAGE
All new for 2009, the Trail Edition is based on the rugged SR5. The package features an Electronic Locking Rear Differential and a Torsen® limited-slip center differential with locking feature. Also included are Bilstein® shocks, unique 16-inch, 5-spoke aluminum alloy wheels, distinctive black-painted tubular side steps and roof rack, and a color-keyed grille. To complete the package, there's a TomTom® [1] Personal Navigation Device [2], so you'll know precisely when you reach the middle of nowhere.

Too bad it's V6 Only.....BOOOOO...Offer those options with the V8 and i'd have my next rig picked out, which is why Jeep gets my nod with the Grand Cherokee Overland, although I would prefer if the GC had lockable diffs instead of the LSD's
 

teotwaki

Excelsior!
Backwoods Rambler said:
I thought they did in the Trail Edition?

Trail Edition

4RUNNER TRAIL EDITION PACKAGE
All new for 2009, the Trail Edition is based on the rugged SR5. The package features an Electronic Locking Rear Differential and a Torsen® limited-slip center differential with locking feature. Also included are Bilstein® shocks, unique 16-inch, 5-spoke aluminum alloy wheels, distinctive black-painted tubular side steps and roof rack, and a color-keyed grille. To complete the package, there's a TomTom® [1] Personal Navigation Device [2], so you'll know precisely when you reach the middle of nowhere.

Too bad it's V6 Only.....BOOOOO...Offer those options with the V8 and i'd have my next rig picked out, which is why Jeep gets my nod with the Grand Cherokee Overland, although I would prefer if the GC had lockable diffs instead of the LSD's

The locking center diff is already available but the rear locking axle is not. The VSC disable will also be added. The offered tubular side steps are worthless and do not match the FJ Cruisers true bolt on rock rails.

Who knows if the 4Runner will last past 2010...
 
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teotwaki said:
The locking center diff is already available but the rear locking axle is not.

So not much of an upgrade there I guess



teotwaki said:
The VSC disable will also be added.

To what, the Trail Edition? I didn't read this anywhere??



teotwaki said:
The offered tubular side steps are worthless .....

Naturally, since this is sold as a Mall Crawler to the masses instead of what it truely can be...



teotwaki said:
Who knows if the 4Runer will last past 2010...

That's a real shame, replaced by what??
 

teotwaki

Excelsior!
Backwoods Rambler said:
So not much of an upgrade there I guess

Would be nice if they offered the six-speed manual! :bike_rider:

Backwoods Rambler said:
To what, the Trail Edition? I didn't read this anywhere??

read down to 3rd paragraph under "Safety"
http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z15851/Toyota-4Runner.aspx

also here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_4Runner

Backwoods Rambler said:
Naturally, since this is sold as a Mall Crawler to the masses instead of what it truely can be...

Still would have been easy to add the hard mount points to the frame...

Backwoods Rambler said:
That's a real shame, replaced by what??

Look at how big the Rav-4 is now. Easier to mass produce too.
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teotwaki

Excelsior!
lathamb said:
I think it is a substantial upgrade. Open diff versus a locker? Big difference.

The locking Torsen center diff is not a new offering. It has been available since the 2003 launch, therefore it is not an upgrade for 2009
 

lathamb

Observer
teotwaki said:
The locking Torsen center diff is not a new offering. It has been available since the 2003 launch, therefore it is not an upgrade for 2009

The locking rear axle is the upgrade, not the center. That is a big upgrade in my book. If you couldn't lock the center on a 4x4, that would be just silly.
 

jingram

Adventurer
It is interesting reading a number of posts about guys wanting to merge the 4runner and the FJ or for toyota to put out a "proper" midsize truck?

Am I the only one that looks at an FJ or a Tacoma or a 4runner these days and wonders why they have balooned into roughly the same size as mid 80s Suburbans?

I for one miss "compact" pickup trucks and SUVs that used to be marketed by Toyota and Nissan and at the time Isuzu and Mitsubishi, not to mention Ford and Chevy with the Ranger/Bronco II and the S10/Blazer respectively. It just seems very strange to me not to simply revive one of the earlier designs size wise with updated sheet metal and a fuel efficient diesel or midsize 4 banger and call it good. I for one would be all over it.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy having that extra bit of room and the extra power that these larger models afford. Hell, the Frontier/Xterra and the FJ/Tacoma both have lovely 4.0 liter V6s that are GREAT motors, but I hold onto my first gen xterra because I don't like how "fat" these new vehicles have become.

As it was, it was very hard for me to move from my Hardbody and our 85 Isuzu Trooper to the Xterra.

That all being said, I really like the looks of this SEMA FJ, although an ARB RR would look much better on it along with OEM steelies, but as others have said, visibility just sucks in them and it is in some ways very unfortunate they did FT 4wd in the manual transmission models.
 

teotwaki

Excelsior!
lathamb said:
The locking rear axle is the upgrade, not the center. That is a big upgrade in my book. If you couldn't lock the center on a 4x4, that would be just silly.

On my 1976 Ford F250 4x4 I didn't have to worry about locking a center diff.... :elkgrin: :truck: It was ALWAYS a 50/50 split in 4WD!
 

teotwaki

Excelsior!
jingram said:
It is interesting reading a number of posts about guys wanting to merge the 4runner and the FJ or for toyota to put out a "proper" midsize truck?

Am I the only one that looks at an FJ or a Tacoma or a 4runner these days and wonders why they have balooned into roughly the same size as mid 80s Suburbans?

I for one miss "compact" pickup trucks and SUVs that used to be marketed by Toyota and Nissan and at the time Isuzu and Mitsubishi, not to mention Ford and Chevy with the Ranger/Bronco II and the S10/Blazer respectively. It just seems very strange to me not to simply revive one of the earlier designs size wise with updated sheet metal and a fuel efficient diesel or midsize 4 banger and call it good. I for one would be all over it.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy having that extra bit of room and the extra power that these larger models afford. Hell, the Frontier/Xterra and the FJ/Tacoma both have lovely 4.0 liter V6s that are GREAT motors, but I hold onto my first gen xterra because I don't like how "fat" these new vehicles have become.

As it was, it was very hard for me to move from my Hardbody and our 85 Isuzu Trooper to the Xterra.

That all being said, I really like the looks of this SEMA FJ, although an ARB RR would look much better on it along with OEM steelies, but as others have said, visibility just sucks in them and it is in some ways very unfortunate they did FT 4wd in the manual transmission models.

My 4Runner was a step down in size from my 1989 full-sized Bronco, both in overall size and smaller engine; 5.8L ---> 4.0L Also more aero and better fuel mileage.

Do you have dimensions on the 80's 'Burban? I remember it as much bigger than my 4Runner is but I could be wrong.... :rolleyes:
 
jingram said:
Am I the only one that looks at an FJ or a Tacoma or a 4runner these days and wonders why they have balooned into roughly the same size as mid 80s Suburbans?

snip - I don't like how "fat" these new vehicles have become.


No you're not the only one. However I assume you're being intentionally fececious (sp) about your comparison.

I also agree that mfg's should keep these things smaller, but I would still like the more powerful engines :chowtime:


Oh, and I didn't consider the rear locker a big upgrade since I figured you could get one from TRD or out of a Tacoma no?
 

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