michaelgroves
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a 2WD van with traction control!? :hehe:
a 2WD van with traction control!? :hehe:
Spikepretorius said:Do you guys also have a problem in the States where uninformed people get conned into buying 4x2 with diff-lock trucks. I've lost count of the number of guys I've come across who reckoned they had a 4x4 and got a rude shock when the reality was explained to them.
When I was in the market for my latest truck a salesman tried to pull that one on me as well. I phoned about an advert to check because I was suspicious that the particular truck wasn't 4x4. I then went along for a test drive but when I got in there was a gear-lever missing. So I turned to the salesman and his answer was Oh man it's the same thing. When I gave him hell he replied that he was just trying to make a sale. Go figure
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A similar problem I've heard about was when buying a FZJ80 unscrupulous sellers will install the dash switch for the lockers in trucks that don't actually have e-locker diffs. I dunno how common it is at established dealers, I've only heard of it happening with a used truck advertised by a private seller. I think by now that most people know what to look for on the axles, it's so obvious that I'm surprised that anyone gets away with it.Spikepretorius said:Do you guys also have a problem in the States where uninformed people get conned into buying 4x2 with diff-lock trucks. I've lost count of the number of guys I've come across who reckoned they had a 4x4 and got a rude shock when the reality was explained to them.
Martinjmpr said:IMO 4x4 is not a requirement - as long as you are willing to accept the limitations of the 2wd. I toured all over the Western US in a 2wd Ford Ranger with just a LSD (not even a locker) and I did fine. Of course, I stuck to paved roads or well graded dirt roads, but I was still able to get a lot of places. So it can be done. 4wd and lo-range are nice to have, but not neccessities.
i agree with this. i originally bought the truck because i got a helluva financing deal on it. i found it to be quite capable with the elocker. is it as capable as a 4wd?? no. but its gotten me plenty of places that a stock 2wd would not have gone. that being said, im halfway thru my 4wd conversion. i should have it done in a couple of weeks thanks to my family pitchin in for my bday. if youre willing to accept the limitations, like i was, a 2wd with a locker is a fairly capable truck, imo.
Martinjmpr said:IMO 4x4 is not a requirement - as long as you are willing to accept the limitations of the 2wd. I toured all over the Western US in a 2wd Ford Ranger with just a LSD (not even a locker) and I did fine. Of course, I stuck to paved roads or well graded dirt roads, but I was still able to get a lot of places. So it can be done. 4wd and lo-range are nice to have, but not neccessities.
When I took my long trip to Utah this past March, there was one day of fairly harsh 4wd roads that required both 4wd and low range. Everything else I saw could have been seen just as well with a 2wd pickup.