HID Upgrade w/o projectors?
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Cackalak Han
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Not trying to be a "hater", but trying to ward off this craze of "gotta have HID" syndrome everyone and their dog's been affected with. Most don't realize that it's a step backwards.
Think of this as a 6" spacer lift, brush guards, and chrome tube step "mods". Flashy with zero performance. "All show and no go" as they say?
Cackalak Han
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That's not why. My old S2000 didn't have auto leveling. The reason why they're illegal was covered on the first page.
xcmountain80
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OldSven
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Just read this thread, good points because my Sylvania SilverStar Ultra's are at about their 1 yr life span and need replacement. I have also been looking into some HID's for the runner but so far what seems to be the better, brighter, longer lasting bulb to the silverstar.
On another note my mom-in-law's 01' Acura TL had regular style lenses with HID's from the factory with no projector. What is the difference of that compared to throwing some HID's in the runner? Just a question...
That G1/G3 HID projector kit is pretty sweet way to do it assuming you can get the headlight back together without leaks.
On another note my mom-in-law's 01' Acura TL had regular style lenses with HID's from the factory with no projector. What is the difference of that compared to throwing some HID's in the runner? Just a question...
That G1/G3 HID projector kit is pretty sweet way to do it assuming you can get the headlight back together without leaks.
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Antichrist
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The difference is that the Acura came from the factory with HID light assemblies. Adding HID bulbs to the runner is putting HID bulbs in a housing that has reflectors and lenses designed for halogen bulbs, and so it is against the law.
Some additional info, just so people don't think I'm making it up.
From NHTSA http://isearch.nhtsa.gov/files/Shih.3.html
(emphasis mine)
From http://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/rules-regulations/administration/fmcsr/fmcsrruletext.aspx?reg=r49CFR571.108
Part 564 (pdf)
CYi5
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This also seems to be our simplest solution, however, reading further you'll notice reports of shaking on dirt/gravel roads. On the streets i'm sure this is a great option, I just don't know if I could handle the jittering when on washboards at night.
OldSven
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This also seems to be our simplest solution, however, reading further you'll notice reports of shaking on dirt/gravel roads. On the streets i'm sure this is a great option, I just don't know if I could handle the jittering when on washboards at night.
Good point...
xcmountain80
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Well the HID's are bright but not my cup of tea. I honestly prefer my IPF X4's to the HID's. They aren't as bright but they work better for my long night drives. I was flashed countless times and felt bad for anyone in front of me.
The color of the DDM 4500K is still blue to me, it reminds me of the a set of silver stars I had at one point, the glare is similar to the silver stars I've used in the past. These might be better suited for a LightForce conversion but I don't recommend them for use as a plug and play bulb replacement, as the light pattern isn't as good as a nice set of halogen or mixed gas bulb.
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The color of the DDM 4500K is still blue to me, it reminds me of the a set of silver stars I had at one point, the glare is similar to the silver stars I've used in the past. These might be better suited for a LightForce conversion but I don't recommend them for use as a plug and play bulb replacement, as the light pattern isn't as good as a nice set of halogen or mixed gas bulb.
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Let's not forget that some replacement HID's have some reports of them affecting electonics.
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/lighting/109639-hids-causing-radio-interference-what-gives.html
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/42478-radio-static-caused-hid-fogs.html
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/audio-video/47038-ipod-interference-hids.html
Given how electronic cars are, do you REALLY want to risk screwing with gas or brakes or something really important?
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/lighting/109639-hids-causing-radio-interference-what-gives.html
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/2nd-gen-tacomas/42478-radio-static-caused-hid-fogs.html
http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/audio-video/47038-ipod-interference-hids.html
Given how electronic cars are, do you REALLY want to risk screwing with gas or brakes or something really important?
zolo
Explorer
Your kiding me right? The harness and relay upgrade is a know way to get brighter lights on Toyota trucks.
The grounds are not the issue.
The voltage drop to the head light's has always been a problem on Toyota trucks... along with the electric window motors. Put a battery straight to either and see the difference. Its true no matter what you think.
And im not even a "HATER" as you stated simply becuase everyone wasnt jumping on board to commend you for wanting HID's.
If you want brighter lights go drive an 80 series LandCruiser for a week then switch back to your truck. Problem solved. You will think its day light out.
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xcmountain80
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xcmountain80
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Unless I missed something these are all frequency related issues, likely brought on by unshielded something or rather. I have extreme interference when my strobe lights are on but only in the CB not the radio. How do the gas or brakes play into this?
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