Jerry cans - New Law

[TheRoadie]

AFAICT, the regulation only addresses the supply side. Assume existing items are grandfathered in, unless there's a prohibition against FILLING non-compliant containers I haven't found yet. That's what they did for the portable propane tank issue - but non-compliant tanks were only given a 1 or 2 year grace period before you couldn't get a refill.

In which case you may need to own ONE compliant container to shuttle to the gas station to refill your empties. Probably hard to do in the middle of a trip.

If I had to guess what the politicians would do, it would be to defer any mention of costing consumers money in the initial change. Just make it a violation to sell old containers. Keeps the complaints to a minimum. THEN, later (maybe soon), publish a proposed NEW regulation to stop the filling stations from filling old containers. And it might slip by without a lot of public complaint.

How a self-serve station with only one attendant who cannot leave the register unattended, and who cannot see everything that goes on, can possibly police this, is unknown.

http://www.arb.ca.gov/consprod/fuel-containers/pfc/pfcreg2005.pdf

no person shall sell, supply, offer for sale, advertise, or manufacture for sale in California a portable fuel container or spout or both portable fuel container and spout on or after July 1, 2007 unless said portable fuel container or spout or both portable fuel container and spout is covered by an Executive Order issued pursuant to this article.

 

[bugnout]

How a self-serve station with only one attendant who cannot leave the register unattended, and who cannot see everything that goes on, can possibly police this, is unknown.

My guess is that will give the pols the excuse to eliminate self serve stations and force fueling stations to raise the price to cover the additional labor necessary to be compliant.

It will be packaged as a job creation measure

 

[TeriAnn]

I just got off the phone with British Pacific (11:20 Pacific time).

All they have left to sell is six 5L jerry cans. The 10 & 20L cans are gone

Today is the last day they will be selling jerry cans
when these 6 cans are gone or when it is 4PM Pacific time today they are gone​

I'm surprised that they have any left! Five liters is about 1.3 US gallons which I find to be a perfect size for those odd & end fluids such as:

• chain saw oil
• Coleman stove fuel
• motor oil
• gear oil
• antifreeze
• solvent
• spare fuel for an outboard motor for boating
• carry on fuel for dirt bikes, ATVs & snowmobiles
• anything that requires mixed 2 cycle fuel

When I go on trips I always carry four 5L cans on my roof rack.

- One for 90 wt, I own a Series Land Rover

- One with anti freeze, I've been known to forget to turn the switch back on for my electric fan after water crossings with predictable old faithful results.

- One for cleaning solvent, important for those field repairs where you have to open something up and clean out metal chips or just clean things up

- An empty one for used solvent or other fluids, Just because I try to tread lightly

And when I carry a chain saw, one can for 2 cycle gas.

 

[Sloan]

I have decided after the can mess and then either having to build something on the back of my FJ60 or get a roof rack to carry spare cans, I am getting an extended range tank. :smiley_drive: Sure it costs more but all the gas is tucked away under the truck and no can spillage.

 

[Zaphod]

I'm giggling myself silly reading some of the comments in this thread after the thrashing I took in another thread for advocating personal responsibility over nany-state intrusiveness....

Oh, well!

More on-topic, I am fortunate enough to have 12 GI Jerry Cans. Four of them came from that unbelieveable deal CTD was running about 4 years ago, and over which I still kick myself for not having ordered more. The others came from who-knows-where, and arewhile they are in pretty decent structural shape, the paint and seals could use some work.

I've purchased the seals, but now the issue is painting them. Aside from a light sanding to get what little rust and other grit may be on the can, should I be using any kind of special paint or primer to do these, or should I just rattle-can them with Rust-Oleum and be done with it?

I was thinking a nice flat OD green or desert tan. :sombrero:

 

[Beowulf]

If you want that true military OD, I recommend these guys.

http://www.tm9ordnance.com/

They have really done their homework.

I would be interested in reading the other forum you were on that was harsh to your nanny state thoughts.

 

[ChrisInVT]

Well, I'm a bit late on this... You can always find some on eBay.

I just don't see how these things can possibly be worth as much as they sell for. I hate my 5gal self-venting cans, but for ~$10 each I'll take them over spending a ridiculous amount of $$ on the metal jerry cans.