Kid broke his arm

keating

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Thoses doses of Advil every 6-8 hours, and Tylenol every 4 hours would mean your little guy is about 34-35lb, then?

The dosages on the bottle are always the lowest dose for the lowest possible body weight of the age scale on the label.

Doctors prescribe by max mg per kg of body weight per day, times body weight in kg, divided by the number of hours between doses to get the number of doses per day.

Much more effective way of dosing, as your kid will actually get the proper amount of medication to help with their symptoms.

Paul

And the dosage was slightly high, I was surprised. Like 1 1/2 children's Advil (160mg), and 3 of the children's tylenols (240mg).
 

XJBANKER

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Fly me back to Toronto and I will watch your boy, house, clean your yard, do dishes and whatever else you need. I want to go back there ssssssssooooooo bad.
 

R_Lefebvre

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Thoses doses of Advil every 6-8 hours, and Tylenol every 4 hours would mean your little guy is about 34-35lb, then?

The dosages on the bottle are always the lowest dose for the lowest possible body weight of the age scale on the label.

Doctors prescribe by max mg per kg of body weight per day, times body weight in kg, divided by the number of hours between doses to get the number of doses per day.

Much more effective way of dosing, as your kid will actually get the proper amount of medication to help with their symptoms.

Paul

Damn, you're good! 33-34lbs. Is it bad if we dialed back the medication to just 100mg of Advil? It just seemed like a lot. I'm not anti-medicine, but I try to take the least amount that will get the job done. They told us the Advil was for pain and swelling, Tylenol is just if he needs more for pain. He's not in too much pain, so we are giving that only when necessary.

Actually I'm a little closer to Toronto. But we go to Ottawa more often, family there. I don't like going to Toronto too much. I think I'm becoming... what's the word... afraid of crowds. Not really afraid but, I'm a small-town guy I guess. Ever since I left Windsor/Detroit, I've been reverting back to my natural state.
 

keating

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The Tylenol only when necessary is fine. The Advil is important because it is an NSAID (Non-Steroidal Anti-inflammatory Drug), which reduces swelling, and swelling slows down healing.
100mg, 3-4 times a day is the proper dosage for a 20lb one year old.
He might not be complaining, but it wouldn't hurt, and could only help to give him the proper dosage, but any NSAID is hard on the stomach, so try to make sure he takes it with lots of food.
With most medication, it's better to give a full dose and heal up quickly and get off it, than to keep taking an insufficient amount for a longer time. Better to just not take any.

Same deal when your kid has a fever. If he has a fever of 103 or whatever, don't screw around with half doses, cuz he's just a little fellow. Give him a full and proper dose, if you want it to do any good. Also note that in bad cases (Say you're out camping and he spikes a fever and you're trying to get out of the bush but need to wait till light or whatever) you can double up Advil and Tylenol. We had to do this once with our daughter for a few hour stretch to keep her temp below 100F.

FYI, and this is EXCELLENT info to have in your First aid kit for both children and adults.


For Ibuprofen (Advil), the max dosage is 40mg/kg per day.

so for a 34lb kidlet, that would be 15.4kg x 40mg = 576mg
Ibuprofen is usually dosed every 6-8 hours, so you can choose to give 192mg every 8 hours, or 144mg every 6 hours.

For Acetaminophen (Tylenol), the max dosage is 90mg/kg per day.

So for a 34lb kidlet, that would be 15.4kg x 90mg = 1386mg
Acetaminophen is usually dosed every 4-6 hours, so you can choose to give 346mg every 6 hours, or 230mg every 4 hours.

One point of note, is that Tylenol has a very narrow therapeutic index.
What that means, is that the amount that is toxic is not much more than what is required to be effective therapeutic. In the case of children, while therapeutic dosage is 90mg/kg per day, a single dose of aprox 200mg/kg could be toxic, so barely twice the therapeutic dosage. In adults, toxicity coul dbe reached with as little as 150mg/kg in a single dose. Reason being, children typically have a larger liver and kidneys for their body size, than adults and can metabolize the excess Acetaminophen more readily.





Damn, you're good! 33-34lbs. Is it bad if we dialed back the medication to just 100mg of Advil? It just seemed like a lot. I'm not anti-medicine, but I try to take the least amount that will get the job done. They told us the Advil was for pain and swelling, Tylenol is just if he needs more for pain. He's not in too much pain, so we are giving that only when necessary.
 
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R_Lefebvre

Expedition Leader
Wow, great info (Dr.?) Keating? What exactly is the toxic result from Tylenol? Death?

We were at the hospital for 4 hours today getting the splint replaced with a real cast. :( Red fiberglass, just like Lightning McQueen! :) He did NOT want to stretch his arm out for the Xray, I told them they'll have to get some orderlies or something, because I can't do this to him. But, after some time, he relented.
 

keating

New member
LOL.
Nope. Just a dad who likes to be VERY informed on what I give my kid, and I did a very informative psych course in university that was all meds and drugs.
Yep. Toxic effect is death. kills your liver and kidneys.
You start to feel better after 24 hrs and think the worst is over, then bang...dead.

Wow, great info (Dr.?) Keating? What exactly is the toxic result from Tylenol? Death?
 

XJBANKER

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Actually I'm a little closer to Toronto. But we go to Ottawa more often, family there. I don't like going to Toronto too much. I think I'm becoming... what's the word... afraid of crowds. Not really afraid but, I'm a small-town guy I guess. Ever since I left Windsor/Detroit, I've been reverting back to my natural state.[/QUOTE]



What City are you in exactly?
 

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