Matt Scott's article "5 Things We'd Love To See In The Next Wrangler"

[Dan Grec]

Oh, don't get me wrong, I could care less. I got my Jeep, and I love it. im just curious to know why anyone would want a completely stripped vechile, basically a chasis with 4 wheels and motor. besides a dedicated buggy, I can't see the need.

A few reasons off the top of my head

Cheaper
Simpler, therefore less to go wrong, and easier to fix yourself.
Lighter.
There is no reason to buy stuff in this world you have no use for (i.e. carpet or backseat if I'm literally throwing them in the trash on day 1) that's just a waste of resources.

-Dan

 

[87GMCJimmy]

A few reasons off the top of my head

Cheaper
Simpler, therefore less to go wrong, and easier to fix yourself.
Lighter.
There is no reason to buy stuff in this world you have no use for (i.e. carpet or backseat if I'm literally throwing them in the trash on day 1) that's just a waste of resources.

-Dan

Yup!!! I agree 100%!!!!!

Also, it is a VERY nice body style, tidy dimensions, convenient layout (four doors, swing out rear tailgate, easy to use soft top, etc. (very few older vehicles have as convenient of a body shape, IMO)) Plus, to me, it sure would be nice to have a lot of the simplicity of an older vehicle but have it be entirely new so, no rust issues in the chassis or body!!! Think about how often people upgrade older vehicles to modern drivetrains but have to do a lot of body and chassis work, this would shortcut all that!!! But, would still maintain the HUGE advantage of a simple electrical system!

 

[expedition4x4]

My jeep is a stripped down version, no power options for comfort. pretty easy to do actually

 

[87GMCJimmy]

My jeep is a stripped down version, no power options for comfort. pretty easy to do actually

Although I commend Jeep for still offering stripped down models, I am saying I wish they'd offer a WAY more stripped down version. (see post #25 for what I am meaning) It would be VERY difficult to make one's own! (having to slice open all the wiring harnesses to remove redundant wiring, tear out a LOT of stock parts, and reprogram the PCM and BCM to compensate for the elimination of MANY of the stock systems)

 

[Dan Grec]

My jeep is a stripped down version, no power options for comfort. pretty easy to do actually

As of 2012, you can't get a Rubicon without power windows and door locks, etc. etc.

-Dan

 

[expedition4x4]

True and not looking to turn this into a thread about the virtues of buying vs building but I preferred to source my own axle locker components, and if I needed a low range I would rather have an atlas than a chain driven jeep tcase

 

[Dan Grec]

True and not looking to turn this into a thread about the virtues of buying vs building but I preferred to source my own axle locker components, and if I needed a low range I would rather have an atlas than a chain driven jeep tcase

Which demonstrates perfectly that each of us has our own different goals and needs, and our own approach to get there.

Some of us want a stripped down Jeep to meet our goals.

-Dan

 

[HRPINDC]

As of 2012, you can't get a Rubicon without power windows and door locks, etc. etc.

-Dan

You can order with half-doors, which would delete the electric locks and windows. I get why people would want to order a bare bones Jeep. Less things to go wrong out in the field, less weight, less waste, easier to repair. I also get why people would want it from the factory that way, so that all of the components were designed to work together.

 

[MattScott]

I've rarely had a power door lock or window leave me stranded in the backcountry.

 

[kojackJKU]

Nope. that's is true. Might as well run a carb and a points ignition too. easier to service in the field. Hell, lets go back to horse and buggy. less to break down, great gas milage, and lots of cargo space!

:26_16_2:

 

[MattScott]

Nope. that's is true. Might as well run a carb and a points ignition too. easier to service in the field. Hell, lets go back to horse and buggy. less to break down, great gas milage, and lots of cargo space!

:26_16_2:

I did the stupid simple thing for a while. Carb and points. Left me broken down in the middle of nowhere more times than I can count. Luckily they're easy to fix.

 

[87GMCJimmy]

I've rarely had a power door lock or window leave me stranded in the backcountry.

********!!! That's why I was calling for a MUCH MUCH more extensively stripped package! (one excluding many systems that CAN leave one stranded!)

Nope. that's is true. Might as well run a carb and a points ignition too. easier to service in the field. Hell, lets go back to horse and buggy. less to break down, great gas milage, and lots of cargo space!

:26_16_2:

********!!! I'm not saying all the tech is bad, I still like EFI! (that's the only computer I want on my vehicle, ideally!) If there were a way for it to be a legal swap, I wouldn't mind a mechanical pump diesel in a JK but, I would not go carb and points. The simpler the electrical system, the more dependable and easier to troubleshoot, IMO much better! (up to a point but, carb and points is too much of a downgrade- EFI has enough of an advantage for off camber, altitudes, etc to be well worthwhile, IMO!)

 

[Hilldweller]

#6 -- Modern quality forward lighting that works.

 

[kojackJKU]

bill,

Im gone to a simpler system, candles in a glass housing. If anything goes wrong just replace the candle and light again.

 

[Omar Brannstrom]

Maybe intresting

http://www.allpar.com/SUVs/jeep/wrangler/2017.html