Mitsubishi Manual Locking Hubs Available

plh

Explorer
are they aisin hubs? I want to know a brand, mitsu oem tells me nothing, thats like me selling you some steel and when you ask what brand I jsut say its oem steel.... could be **** china steel could be legit made in canada steel..

These hubs are OEM made for ChangFeng Mitsubishi. ChangFeng makes Gen 2 and Gen 3 Pajeros for the China automotive market and some small exports to Russia and the Middle East. Read more about these guys here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Changfeng_Motor

As to who the exact subcontractor to ChangFeng is I'm not positive.
 

scrubber3

Not really here
Also, if your rig is lifted or the torsion bars cranked, the cv axle boots will tear up much sooner. These release that.

Trust me, if I say they held up to my putting them through the ringer, then they work very well.
 

ca18_sean

Adventurer
I just installed mine today :) Thanks for the fast turnaround time on shipping them plh! It all goes together very easily! I also did my front rotors and repacked the bearings, but to do just the locking hubs would take about 20 minutes to install.
 

plh

Explorer
No additional parts needed unless you lose a snap ring.

It's really simple to install. Take the old flanges off. Pull the snap ring off.

Ready the new hubs by taking the outer caps off. Install the hubs paying careful attention to alignment. (It won't let you miss up) put snap ring back on axle. Install outer cap. (These will strip very easy, they only need a few lbs of torque.)

Be sure to use lock tight and gasket sealer. It may be a good time to re grease the bearing while you're in there.

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Install instructions are here: Install Instructions and are also available on the Tuffpans site. Make sure to follow the bolt torque specifications.
 

1stgenoverland

Adventurer
I bought a set of these hubs and I had troubles keeping them sealed up as well as the castings were poor on mine and there are hairline cracks showing to the outside of the hubs now. There is a lot of play in them too because the integral parts are made from two different metallic materials and the harder steel has worn away at the softer steel. This is also the reason for the hairline cracks. They selector kept seizing up and three times I have removed them to clean the insides. I have gone through two sets of bearings in the front end because of this. Where I live there is a lot of water. I have never had a problem with it before with any locking hubs until now. When I called about warranty there was none but only to return the hubs to see if they were installed correctly (how would then know with out seeing them on the truck) and then for me to buy a new pair. When asked why there was no warranty I was simply told that the parts came from China.

I could see these hubs working in drier climates but in my case they have failed because of poor build quality. I'm slightly displeased and feel my money was wasted but that will feel better once I find a new set.
 

SoCalMonty

Explorer
Yeah, I gotta say...

1), I've never broken stock ones in moderate rock crawling.

2), the idea of getting out of my "luxury, $39,000 SUV with automatic everything" to get my hands dirty and engage 4WD manually is contradictory.

3), if I'm gonna go manual, it seems worth the extra few bucks to bypass the Chinese cheapies and get the JDM ones.

Good luck guys.
 

plh

Explorer
I bought a set of these hubs and I had troubles keeping them sealed up as well as the castings were poor on mine and there are hairline cracks showing to the outside of the hubs now. There is a lot of play in them too because the integral parts are made from two different metallic materials and the harder steel has worn away at the softer steel. This is also the reason for the hairline cracks. They selector kept seizing up and three times I have removed them to clean the insides. I have gone through two sets of bearings in the front end because of this. Where I live there is a lot of water. I have never had a problem with it before with any locking hubs until now. When I called about warranty there was none but only to return the hubs to see if they were installed correctly (how would then know with out seeing them on the truck) and then for me to buy a new pair. When asked why there was no warranty I was simply told that the parts came from China.

I could see these hubs working in drier climates but in my case they have failed because of poor build quality. I'm slightly displeased and feel my money was wasted but that will feel better once I find a new set.

Hey Wesley, the offer of no replacement is simply not true. I gave you 2 options back in January. You elected to refuse both. 1. Return the pair of hubs and I'll send out another set. 2. Buy another set - and after you install them - send your old pair back and I'll refund the money. Offer still stands. Let me know. Paul
 

off-roader

Expedition Leader
Hey Wesley, the offer of no replacement is simply not true. I gave you 2 options back in January. You elected to refuse both. 1. Return the pair of hubs and I'll send out another set. 2. Buy another set - and after you install them - send your old pair back and I'll refund the money. Offer still stands. Let me know. Paul
Hmmm I wonder who's misrepresenting what here...:costumed-smiley-007
 

shov3lbum

Adventurer
Hey Paul, I guess what would be a good warranty to cover the general failure of these hubs? Such as fractures in the metal? or something obviously wrong where they were not abused like a bad tolerance in the fit from the factory.

How long would you say is fair for a warranty to be extended? Lifetime, 1 year, 2 years, and so on... I'm not asking for any type of super safe 'I want all my money back warranty', just thinking out loud about what would be reasonable in this situation especially since you are not connected at all with the manufacturer--or maybe you are?

I understand the wear and tear of parts and I see no problem with dismantling and cleaning these manual hubs every oil change, honestly it's just good sense to me and it's beyond easy to do. But in the case where these hubs fail even after that, how far and along would be reasonable to still offer a "warranty?" (I won't hold you to anything! No worries!)
 

off-roader

Expedition Leader
Just retread my post from last night. I want to add that Paul has always offered very reasonable customer service in EVERY issue I've seen him face. So I guess resolving this is really up to Wesley and not Paul as he's misrepresented.
 

plh

Explorer
Hey Paul, I guess what would be a good warranty to cover the general failure of these hubs? Such as fractures in the metal? or something obviously wrong where they were not abused like a bad tolerance in the fit from the factory.

We have had a published warranty policy on our Tuffpans website since July 2012. Its pretty straight forward and follows similar guidelines as many other aftermarket part suppliers. We put this policy in place to cover our bicycle business in January 2012, and then carried it forward to Tuffpans items.
 

shov3lbum

Adventurer
We have had a published warranty policy on our Tuffpans website since July 2012. Its pretty straight forward and follows similar guidelines as many other aftermarket part suppliers. We put this policy in place to cover our bicycle business in January 2012, and then carried it forward to Tuffpans items.

Ok, my bad, I just read through it, must have looked over it last time. Thanks.
 

1stgenoverland

Adventurer
Hey Wesley, the offer of no replacement is simply not true. I gave you 2 options back in January. You elected to refuse both. 1. Return the pair of hubs and I'll send out another set. 2. Buy another set - and after you install them - send your old pair back and I'll refund the money. Offer still stands. Let me know. Paul

Yeah you did but the option of waiting for pieces wasn't going to work and sending you money a second time for something that should have worked the first time seemed unfair. I know there would have been a refund but I just couldn't risk it at the time. It is a reasonable offer though, although it didn't really suit my timing. I do understand your reasoning behind things too. In hindsight my note posted on here may have been a little harsh but I think it's understandable considering the situation it put me in while in the bush working one day. For me I need something tougher and if you could offer me a full refund upon me returning the original hubs that would be great. I could put that money to recoup buying the second set from Japan.
 

plh

Explorer
Hi Wesley, I don't view this forum daily, so please contact me at: nsm.paul (at) gmail (dot) com. Offer still stands. Thanks
 

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