Metcalf
Expedition Leader
Thanks for the ideas dzzz.
attached is my version
- outward right hand door to hide toilet
- you need three risers for 24 inch of stairs, the last riser can be closer to the rear tire as it's higher
- I took out the L counter and gave access to a large closet with the water tank on the floor
-I turned the tire
-I would go back 18 inches with a cut to maintain depature angle. Put the 'cut' under the couch
There is no need for the angle cut on the back. The factory departure angle and bed length are maintained on an L37 wheelbase with this design. All the bedding also gets stored under the 'couch'. Basically the rear of the camper is even with the factory bumper. On the L37 the rear tire is almost at the rear most portion of the bed.
I think in a perfect world you would need a more stairs, but a single foot stair would be enough for us. The wasted space between the bathroom and tire could be occupied by the gray water tank shaped in a triangle. The water from the sinks could gravity flow to this easily. I could hide a small sump type pump in the triangle stair to pump the shower water up from the shower pan into the tank ( if it wasn't cool to just let it water the ground with a simple drain hose ). The toilet is a cassette style so it doesn't go in the tank.
I like your idea for turning the tire, but it does shift the counter space and sink away from the water tank. With my design they are almost right on top of each other. All the plumbing can be located under the sink corner space with an outside door to access it.
I think the L-shaped kitchen would also work better for cooking and cleaning while seated on a simple stool. You shouldn't have to move your position in order to access the sink, stove, prep counter, and fridge.
I like the large closet, but I don't know if it would be any bigger than my design. The only thing I have stored in the back are clothes and bedding. In your design I loose a lot of kitchen storage space I think. I would have to have cupboard above to gain back the space. I also think that I would have a hard time fitting the microwave, fridge, sink ( and plumbing ), and stove in the straight wall kitchen, especially with the long outside storage cabinet below this area.
Battery space is limited in my design, especially if I want to keep the batteries forward with the weight down. I could sneak a large battery in the area wasted in front of where the spare tire rolls in. I could also install one in the wasted space behind the fuel tank on the drivers side. I would like the camper to be fairly independent however......basically I would like it to be able to be pulled from the unimog and placed on a cradle to be used at the ranch as extra room for guests ( and I can use the 'mog for other stuff too)
Thanks or all the ideas. I hope people keep posting there thoughts.
attached is my version
- outward right hand door to hide toilet
- you need three risers for 24 inch of stairs, the last riser can be closer to the rear tire as it's higher
- I took out the L counter and gave access to a large closet with the water tank on the floor
-I turned the tire
-I would go back 18 inches with a cut to maintain depature angle. Put the 'cut' under the couch
There is no need for the angle cut on the back. The factory departure angle and bed length are maintained on an L37 wheelbase with this design. All the bedding also gets stored under the 'couch'. Basically the rear of the camper is even with the factory bumper. On the L37 the rear tire is almost at the rear most portion of the bed.
I think in a perfect world you would need a more stairs, but a single foot stair would be enough for us. The wasted space between the bathroom and tire could be occupied by the gray water tank shaped in a triangle. The water from the sinks could gravity flow to this easily. I could hide a small sump type pump in the triangle stair to pump the shower water up from the shower pan into the tank ( if it wasn't cool to just let it water the ground with a simple drain hose ). The toilet is a cassette style so it doesn't go in the tank.
I like your idea for turning the tire, but it does shift the counter space and sink away from the water tank. With my design they are almost right on top of each other. All the plumbing can be located under the sink corner space with an outside door to access it.
I think the L-shaped kitchen would also work better for cooking and cleaning while seated on a simple stool. You shouldn't have to move your position in order to access the sink, stove, prep counter, and fridge.
I like the large closet, but I don't know if it would be any bigger than my design. The only thing I have stored in the back are clothes and bedding. In your design I loose a lot of kitchen storage space I think. I would have to have cupboard above to gain back the space. I also think that I would have a hard time fitting the microwave, fridge, sink ( and plumbing ), and stove in the straight wall kitchen, especially with the long outside storage cabinet below this area.
Battery space is limited in my design, especially if I want to keep the batteries forward with the weight down. I could sneak a large battery in the area wasted in front of where the spare tire rolls in. I could also install one in the wasted space behind the fuel tank on the drivers side. I would like the camper to be fairly independent however......basically I would like it to be able to be pulled from the unimog and placed on a cradle to be used at the ranch as extra room for guests ( and I can use the 'mog for other stuff too)
Thanks or all the ideas. I hope people keep posting there thoughts.
