Nissan Patrol
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Patrol
Hi guys,
Thanks,
Yep, it is like the LC80 - we did not have it in Israel (like you did), so this is what we are left with
. (I wish i could get a 1998 LC80 fully loaded)
It is a turbo-Diesel intercooled power - 3.0L 165 HP - which is way out of your league - you are used to V-8, V-6 250hp+ power plants....
This one takes 13L per 100km.
Joy
Hi guys,
Thanks,
Yep, it is like the LC80 - we did not have it in Israel (like you did), so this is what we are left with
. (I wish i could get a 1998 LC80 fully loaded)It is a turbo-Diesel intercooled power - 3.0L 165 HP - which is way out of your league - you are used to V-8, V-6 250hp+ power plants....
This one takes 13L per 100km.
Joy
Kjell Sullivan
Observer
I love it! I wish we could get these. One of my all time favorite rigs (expecially when outfitted for expeditions) :Wow1:
mauricio_28
Adventurer
Very nice. We have them here in Indonesia, but there are not many.
Just one question: In what percetange of cases or places that you go, would you not be able to make it to your destination without the solid front axle?
Just one question: In what percetange of cases or places that you go, would you not be able to make it to your destination without the solid front axle?
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UK4X4
Expedition Leader
"Just one question: In what percentage of cases or places that you go, would you not be able to make it to your destination without the solid front axle?"
Mauricio, its not getting to the destination thats the worry,
its the getting back ! :smiley_drive:
Even toyota here in the middle east supply solid axle 100 series LC's..for desert use. "105" is the designation
Plus the 79 series are sold here too, all with solid axles
Independant just has too many moving parts, pivot points bushings and pressed steel parts for daily use on desert roads.....sorry road is a bit much
desert pistes........100's of kilometers of ungraded gravel tracks and blown sand.
I just sold a beaten up old RJ77 LC to a guy here in Muscat, who is promptly driving it to yemen to sell there, solid axle vehicles are the desert favorite
and even the oldest 80 and 60 series are near impossible to buy here, as they are all in use out in the countryside
the reason is'nt internet folk law, its just what works best- for longer
We have a works Hilux D4D brand new, has been aligned twice in 3 months usage in the desert, just due to things vibrating apart
Nissan Patrol 4.8 driver so I am biased
Mauricio, its not getting to the destination thats the worry,
its the getting back ! :smiley_drive:
Even toyota here in the middle east supply solid axle 100 series LC's..for desert use. "105" is the designation
Plus the 79 series are sold here too, all with solid axles
Independant just has too many moving parts, pivot points bushings and pressed steel parts for daily use on desert roads.....sorry road is a bit much
desert pistes........100's of kilometers of ungraded gravel tracks and blown sand.
I just sold a beaten up old RJ77 LC to a guy here in Muscat, who is promptly driving it to yemen to sell there, solid axle vehicles are the desert favorite
and even the oldest 80 and 60 series are near impossible to buy here, as they are all in use out in the countryside
the reason is'nt internet folk law, its just what works best- for longer
We have a works Hilux D4D brand new, has been aligned twice in 3 months usage in the desert, just due to things vibrating apart
Nissan Patrol 4.8 driver so I am biased
mauricio_28
Adventurer
All fair points, but you failed to address my core question.
solid axles
Hey guys,
Just got beck from a desert tour.
As for the solid axle question: In all places a non solid axles 4x4 can go (and come back). the thing is that as mentioned here, independent suspension are to gentle for long term abuse - to many parts (and too small and gentle).
I can go faster on uneven surface - and not fear bents or faults.
the whole structure is very solid and tough.
It is my choice for real hard (off-road) work - I pay the price on road, it will never be comfortable and sharp as an independent suspension 4x4.
Joy
Hey guys,
Just got beck from a desert tour.
As for the solid axle question: In all places a non solid axles 4x4 can go (and come back). the thing is that as mentioned here, independent suspension are to gentle for long term abuse - to many parts (and too small and gentle).
I can go faster on uneven surface - and not fear bents or faults.
the whole structure is very solid and tough.
It is my choice for real hard (off-road) work - I pay the price on road, it will never be comfortable and sharp as an independent suspension 4x4.
Joy
With careful wheel placement, and possibly some traction aids (ie lockers) you will be able to get an independant front vehicle as far as a solid front vehicle. The biggest problem with IFS is that it tends to leave one front wheel hanging in the air, while a solid axle forces that same wheel onto the ground.
The big benifit of solid axles (appart from better traction without lockers) is that they will go bush all day every day for their entire lives. I regularly drive patrols and cruisers that have done over 250,000km offroad, and except for perhaps a bull bar and some new springs/shocks as they wear out, have never had a major problem.
The big benifit of solid axles (appart from better traction without lockers) is that they will go bush all day every day for their entire lives. I regularly drive patrols and cruisers that have done over 250,000km offroad, and except for perhaps a bull bar and some new springs/shocks as they wear out, have never had a major problem.
"Just one question: In what percentage of cases or places that you go, would you not be able to make it to your destination without the solid front axle?"
Mauricio, its not getting to the destination thats the worry,
its the getting back ! :smiley_drive:
Even toyota here in the middle east supply solid axle 100 series LC's..for desert use. "105" is the designation
Plus the 79 series are sold here too, all with solid axles
Independant just has too many moving parts, pivot points bushings and pressed steel parts for daily use on desert roads.....sorry road is a bit much
desert pistes........100's of kilometers of ungraded gravel tracks and blown sand.
I just sold a beaten up old RJ77 LC to a guy here in Muscat, who is promptly driving it to yemen to sell there, solid axle vehicles are the desert favorite
and even the oldest 80 and 60 series are near impossible to buy here, as they are all in use out in the countryside
the reason is'nt internet folk law, its just what works best- for longer
We have a works Hilux D4D brand new, has been aligned twice in 3 months usage in the desert, just due to things vibrating apart
Nissan Patrol 4.8 driver so I am biased
we get 105 cruisers too not just for desert use, Aus still gets solid crusiers well not 200's 79 ect patrols :wings: