toyrunner95
Explorer
I just received the latest issue of Overland Journal and I have to voice my opinion about the winch test segments. First off, good job on reporting accurately and honestly. That is one thing that I really do enjoy about this publication. The honesty and integrity that go into the tests.
However I am disappointed on the tests. I don't think they were accurate and there are a few reasons why.
1. The winch plates. Every winch should be used with the recommended winch plate. This is obviously proven when the warn 12k broke the mount. I have used the warn 12k with the recommended winch plate and had no problems. There should be 6 bolts that hold it in, 4 on the feet and another 2 on the face. This keeps the winch from torquing the plate and disintegrating as the test showed.
2. The winch line. I have a serious problem with using a synthetic line especially when the instructions say not to! The test should have been done with the stock cables, for a true honest test they should be tested as factory! not modified! Now this is not to say that the synthetic line is not safe. I agree with the safety aspects and the weight factor. But it's unfair to show a perfectly good winch crap out when A. it was mounted wrong, and B. it had a line that wasn't recommended.
I am not the type that is brand specific when it comes to parts and knockoffs. But i will use a few quotes from the same issue to illustrate my point of accuracy and integrity.
"A company that replicates another's product to perfection has still stolen some one else's work." Jonathan Hansen Executive Editor. (pg.10, paragraph 1) Warn was the originator of the winch. The Mo.8274 was the first model ever to be produced for the civilian market.
"Each new modification adds...complexity to a platform that factory engineers spent thousands of hours designing." Scott Brady Publisher (pg.81, paragraph 1) Then why did you use an insufficient winch plate and a winch line that was not recommended? If they spent so many hours developing this product don't you think it will work as it is?
I again would like to say that this publication is great and I am glad that you were honest. You did say that you used the Ramsey mount and that WARN immediately sent you a new winch and plate to test and it passed. But I still believe that there were flaws in your testing.
However I am disappointed on the tests. I don't think they were accurate and there are a few reasons why.
1. The winch plates. Every winch should be used with the recommended winch plate. This is obviously proven when the warn 12k broke the mount. I have used the warn 12k with the recommended winch plate and had no problems. There should be 6 bolts that hold it in, 4 on the feet and another 2 on the face. This keeps the winch from torquing the plate and disintegrating as the test showed.
2. The winch line. I have a serious problem with using a synthetic line especially when the instructions say not to! The test should have been done with the stock cables, for a true honest test they should be tested as factory! not modified! Now this is not to say that the synthetic line is not safe. I agree with the safety aspects and the weight factor. But it's unfair to show a perfectly good winch crap out when A. it was mounted wrong, and B. it had a line that wasn't recommended.
I am not the type that is brand specific when it comes to parts and knockoffs. But i will use a few quotes from the same issue to illustrate my point of accuracy and integrity.
"A company that replicates another's product to perfection has still stolen some one else's work." Jonathan Hansen Executive Editor. (pg.10, paragraph 1) Warn was the originator of the winch. The Mo.8274 was the first model ever to be produced for the civilian market.
"Each new modification adds...complexity to a platform that factory engineers spent thousands of hours designing." Scott Brady Publisher (pg.81, paragraph 1) Then why did you use an insufficient winch plate and a winch line that was not recommended? If they spent so many hours developing this product don't you think it will work as it is?
I again would like to say that this publication is great and I am glad that you were honest. You did say that you used the Ramsey mount and that WARN immediately sent you a new winch and plate to test and it passed. But I still believe that there were flaws in your testing.
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