Project "Smurf" Expedition Scout/Traveler

[ExpoScout]

They stretched a Scout II 1/2 cab. Aren't those fairly rare? I know the Terra's short cab is more like the Traveler than the Scout II's roof.

I don't recall the details of the Scout II hinge and latches. I was thinking more about being able to leave them in place than the whole tailgate.

Yeah the half cabs are just about as rare as the terra tops, but are basically the same other than the terra having a slightly more sloped back and being made out of fiberglass as opposed to steel.

The scout II has the tailgate like a truck, and the hatch is basically the same as a camper top for a truck:

The traveler has a full length hatch:

What I think youre saying is that I could leave the tailgate from the Scout II and just put the traveler top on, which is correct...it just wouldnt be completely enclosed unless I cut the traveler hatch in half so it would meet up with the tailgate

But chances are once I get the smaller modified cab on the scout, Ill rarely put the traveler top back on, unless I really needed to to haul something out of the elements. But then again there will be a rear bulkhead separating the passenger compartment from the mini truck bed in the back, so it will limit the size of what I could fit back there.

 

[silverscout]

Coming along nicely Major. Dont lose your steam!

 

[ExpoScout]

Coming along nicely Major. Dont lose your steam!

Thanks!

Now that Ive actually been driving it its not going to be so easy to neglect :sombrero:

 

[El Guapo]

two questions

If you have the room on the engine I'd go with the York A/C compressor type of OBA. Those will run nearly continous duty w/o a tank. QUOTE]

1-what rpm range does this diesel engine have? (i.e. vs. a gasser, Diesels typically run a lot slower than a IC engine; thus i would watch out for RPM rate dependent components such as anything that is driven by a belt.

2- someone posted that "all the compression of the Diesel engine is hard on a battery". Care to explain? as far as i know the Diesels actually have almost to no load on a battery (the combustion / iginition is generated by compression of the fuel/air mix). Unless you are referring only to start up cranking with the electrical starter? - then that does make all the sense, and don't they have properly geared starters for Diesels?????

great build by the way! watching it closely...how hard is it to get parts for that engine????

 

[ntsqd]

Diesel idle speeds aren't significantly different from, specifically, the IH gasser engine's idle speed. The Compressor will just work a little slower at a reduced idle, but it's not a big deal as it won't cause any damage.
Setting up a higher idle speed for those times when it might be needed isn't a big project, but may not be needed enough to justify the effort.

Typical gasser static compression ratio ranges from ~7.5:1 (turbo/supercharged engines) to 9.75:1 for the upper end of street performance engines. Hot rods and race engines run up to ~13:1 for gasoline and ~16:1 for alcohol.

The typical diesel static compression ratio is 18:1 and they go as high as ~22:1.

In a diesel engine what is supposed to be the ignition source of the fuel is the air that was super-heated by the compression. This isn't always true in reality, but it is the text book description.

The diesel engine's poor compression braking performance stems from the lack of a throttle on the intake, not the lack of compression ratio.

 

[ExpoScout]

great build by the way! watching it closely...how hard is it to get parts for that engine????

Thanks! They are relatively hard to find parts for...just have to know where to look :sombrero:

 

[ExpoScout]

Diesel idle speeds aren't significantly different from, specifically, the IH gasser engine's idle speed. The Compressor will just work a little slower at a reduced idle, but it's not a big deal as it won't cause any damage.
Setting up a higher idle speed for those times when it might be needed isn't a big project, but may not be needed enough to justify the effort.

Typical gasser static compression ratio ranges from ~7.5:1 (turbo/supercharged engines) to 9.75:1 for the upper end of street performance engines. Hot rods and race engines run up to ~13:1 for gasoline and ~16:1 for alcohol.

The typical diesel static compression ratio is 18:1 and they go as high as ~22:1.

In a diesel engine what is supposed to be the ignition source of the fuel is the air that was super-heated by the compression. This isn't always true in reality, but it is the text book description.

The diesel engine's poor compression braking performance stems from the lack of a throttle on the intake, not the lack of compression ratio.

Yeah, I believe these engines are closer to 22:1 IIRC

 

[JAFJO]

Nice to see someone using a great platform for a build. I'll have to follow along on your build now. At times I miss my last Traveler, here is a pic of it before I painted it then sold it. Someone in Indiana bought it.

A friend of mine dumped a 4BT into his and made an extended cab Terra top for it. That motor and a 5spd is a very nice combo. Good luck.

Edit: I see you already found it.

 

[JAFJO]

Yes, the travelers have the same mounting points, so a Scout II tailgate will bolt right up.

As far as the hatch working in conjunction with the tailgate, Id either have to cut the hatch in half so it would mate up with the tailgate, or simply take the tailgate off if I wanted to put the traveler top back on.

Actually, I found someone that did something similar to what I want to do. The only difference is they used a different style top than I would be using:

Thats Cory's rig. It's a very nice ride. He used a factory steel half cab, not the fiberglass terra top and then started chopping.

 

[silverscout]

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I remember when your Scout was for sale. I had to do some real soul searching to avoid purchasing it. We actually PM'd a bit back and forth. Great build.

Major, any progress on your Scout?

 

[roostercruiser]

nice biuld so far. its seeing another IH.

 

[bailey5071]

New Scout Traveler Owner

Please Help!

I recently just bought my grandfathers 1979 scout II traveler and got it staged in Dallas. I am just starting what will be an all out restoration and am trying to locate some parts. I have currently looked online for a hinge assembly for the travelers top. One of the hinges is damaged and needs to be replaced so that the hatchback will function properly. Do you know of a parts supplier that would have a replacment in stock?

 

[ExpoScout]

Major, any progress on your Scout?

Nothing to speak of....I drove the crap out of it this summer and Ive just been too busy to mess with it lately. I'll be back in the saddle soon enough and you guys will be the first ones to know about any updates.

nice biuld so far. its seeing another IH.

Thanks...yeah we are few and far between these days it seems.

 

[ExpoScout]

Please Help!

I recently just bought my grandfathers 1979 scout II traveler and got it staged in Dallas. I am just starting what will be an all out restoration and am trying to locate some parts. I have currently looked online for a hinge assembly for the travelers top. One of the hinges is damaged and needs to be replaced so that the hatchback will function properly. Do you know of a parts supplier that would have a replacment in stock?

Hmm, some of the other guys in this thread may be more help than I am...but theres super scout specialists, scout parts, etc etc...

 

[Mr. Moore]

Another is IH Only.... I know there are a few more...just can't remember. I too love seeing the IH's...it makes me sad...I miss my Scout II...... I would love to have it back now that I found this site! so many Ideas!!!!!! alas my Ram will have to do....Good luck on the build! Oh and check out the " Binder Bulletin" ....ot is a forum website like this for IH...lots of good stuff there