Timbren Axel question

[greentruck]

What are your plans for mounting the new suspension? Will you build a sub-frame that's welded to the tub or will you use the tub itself as the framing?

We use our M101 CDN expedition-style. I'll keep the solid reliability of the solid axle stock suspension. However, if you plan on lots of trail time, I can see why you'd want the better performance of an independent suspension. Fewer busted lantern mantles, etc are a good thing.

 

[Jeep2.0]

Interesting

If it's reliable (strong), this is very interesting, for a build or a mod to an M416/M101 CDN style trailer.

Subscribed.

 

[elcoyote]

We are testing these in a speciatly application. They are suitable in a static load application however they lack the wheel travel and variable pre-load capabilities that we prefer for our core oevrland trailers.

 

[newimage]

I have been using these axles on my off road trailers and they are awesome. Ride smooth takes the rough road like nothing and the freeway even empty smooth as glass.:elkgrin:

 

[Bumzo1]

a few people have mentioned wheel travel as a downside but why is it important on a single axle trailer? it seems that if you have a 360° coupler its just going to follow the dips in the trail similar to a bicycle.

 

[gabepari]

a few people have mentioned wheel travel as a downside but why is it important on a single axle trailer? it seems that if you have a 360° coupler its just going to follow the dips in the trail similar to a bicycle.

Trailers weigh more than bicycles. When that much mass has to change directions quickly, things break. A good suspension keeps the trailer riding smooth so all your root beer is intact when you arrive at camp :coffeedrink:

 

[elcoyote]

Our analysis of the Timbren is that it compares to a torsion axle in performance and has the advantage of being servicable which a torsion is not. Handling characteritics are very similar to a torsion axle i.e. good for highway, moderate fire road duty and light utility trailer usage. This is not an axle we would endorse for long streches of Baja washboard or big ledge drop off bounces on technical terrain.

 

[OS-Aussie]

Ah, brakes ???

 

[loren85022]

I have been using these axles on my off road trailers and they are awesome. Ride smooth takes the rough road like nothing and the freeway even empty smooth as glass.:elkgrin:

Any pics?

 

[newimage]

Our analysis of the Timbren is that it compares to a torsion axle in performance and has the advantage of being servicable which a torsion is not. Handling characteritics are very similar to a torsion axle i.e. good for highway, moderate fire road duty and light utility trailer usage. This is not an axle we would endorse for long streches of Baja washboard or big ledge drop off bounces on technical terrain.

I have two trailers that been used very well thru Dusy and the Rubicon granted they are on 35" tires aired down to 5psi but I like them
On my other enclosed off road trailers they work very well as they do only see fireroads to base camp.::ylsmoke:

 

[elcoyote]

Ah, brakes ???

Yes they are available with electric brakes

 

[unionmine]

Our analysis of the Timbren is that it compares to a torsion axle in performance and has the advantage of being servicable which a torsion is not. Handling characteritics are very similar to a torsion axle i.e. good for highway, moderate fire road duty and light utility trailer usage. This is not an axle we would endorse for long streches of Baja washboard or big ledge drop off bounces on technical terrain.

Thanks for all the great info. you have been more helpful than timbren.

 

[406expo]

I was thinking about a set of these as ettrailer has them on sale right now, but hard to pass the rugged reliability of a solid axle and low cost of the traditional set up. At least thats my take for my 416 build. Sure do like the idea and the clearance.

 

[BoarderMX]

I'm rebuilding a 1988 packmule with these. So far, so good. Took it for the first spin today and I'll update as I get it off road and the rest of the build completed. Very quiet and no bouncing even unloaded compared with just the leafs it had before.

Here is the thread if you want to see it with the Timbren being put on in stages. If you have any questions about it let me know.

http://www.expeditionportal.com/forum/threads/113435-1988-Packmule-expedition-conversion

 

[skersfan]

I would run a cross member with them. I have never tried them, I do know that they were tested by the US Military, or a close version. I will try to get the correct information on the results. I do know that Dexter TorFlex and Alko rubber ride are what goes on the new military trailers. They are doing away with all leaf and solid axle applications below 5000 pounds. Supposedly below 10k shortly. That is the reason all these military trailers are being sold. To make room for the new ones.

A lot of torque could be applied to these with large tires and wheels and not the strongest of frames. But I do think a cross member would make them work and stop the bending of the frame.