Hi-Lift + Lift Mate to fix a flat tire?

Oddity

New member
Wondering if anyone has done this before.

Currently don't have any points to lift with a hi-lift (neither rock sliders, nor steel bumpers), but saw the "Lift Mate" attachment that lifts from the wheel. By the looks of it, there is a pad up top that supports the jack against the tire. In the event of a flat, I would jack up the wheel, place a jack stand under the axle anr remove the hi-lift, fix/replace the flat, then hook up the hi-lift and lower again. My concern is that with a flat, there won't be enough pressure in the tire to support the lateral force of the hi-lift, rendering the hi-lift useless.

I need something that will lift the truck now that it has been leveled out and sitting on 35's. Eventually I will get my armor sorted for lift points, this is in the meantime.
 

Kmrtnsn

Explorer
Knowing what kind of truck being jacked up would help but for just about anything I have found the HMMWV Heavy-lift scissor jack will lift about anything and it compresses to about 6" high. Bolt a piece of 12" square diamond plate to the base and you have a very stable base. Bottle jacks are nice, and I carry one (Bogert Safe-Jack Kit) with the Hi-Lift but somethings you just cant get them underneath what you're trying to lift.

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Oddity

New member
Knowing what kind of truck being jacked up would help but for just about anything I have found the HMMWV Heavy-lift scissor jack will lift about anything and it compresses to about 6" high. Bolt a piece of 12" square diamond plate to the base and you have a very stable base. Bottle jacks are nice, and I carry one (Bogert Safe-Jack Kit) with the Hi-Lift but somethings you just cant get them underneath what you're trying to lift.


Whoops! It's for a 2015 Ram 1500. I had the stock scissor jack fold up on me when I used it to chance a spare. Got a new one under warranty but it's been retired to a last-resort jack stand now.

Ideally I would have a bottle / scissor jack as well as a hi-lift, (the more options for recovery/repair, the better).
 
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Kmrtnsn

Explorer
Whoops! It's for a 2015 Ram 1500. I had the stock scissor jack fold up on me when I used it to chance a spare. Got a new one under warranty but it's been retired to a last-resort jack stand now.

Ideally I would have a bottle / scissor jack as well as a hi-lift, (the more options for recovery/repair, the better).

There are scissor jacks, and then there are scissor jacks. The one I recommended is nothing like your factory jack. Again, bottle jacks are great, IF you can get them underneath the needed jack point.
 

Oddity

New member
There are scissor jacks, and then there are scissor jacks. The one I recommended is nothing like your factory jack. Again, bottle jacks are great, IF you can get them underneath the needed jack point.

I got looking into the safe-jack lineup, I really like the design idea for the bottle jack extension / jack stand. Thinking I'll get the safe-jack extension kit, hi-lift base, and a OTC in-line bottle jack. This way I have a safe means to change a flat, the base will work with the footprint of that bottle jack (as well as a hi-lift down the road), and I can purchase the safe-jack base at a later point to serve as a jack-stand as well (or fab up my own). Don't think clearance will be an issue, I have 14" to the rear axle, 10" to the pumpkin, and I believe 14" for the front frame support. The bottle jack I linked is just under 8" minimum height.

Two questions -
What is the inner diameter for the safe-jack extensions (where the ram of the bottle jack sits in)? That will dictate whether I get the 8-ton or 5-ton jack. Also, what is the footprint size on a hi-lift? I read somewhere 4"x7", but confirmation would be nice.
 
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JHa6av8r

Adventurer
I have a Hi-Lift and Lift Mate. I also have a Bogert Jack Stand and Safe Bottle Jack Kit. The truck needs to be supported by the Bogert Jack Stand to change the tire if the Hi-Lift/Lift Mate was used to raise the tire.. I have both the Hi-Life/Lift Mate and Bogert Safe Jack Kit because you just don't know what the conditions will be when you need to change a tire.
 

Oddity

New member
You'll have a lot less than that when the tire is flat.

Absolutely, especially with 35's on 17" rims. I figure, worst case scenario, use the stock scissor lift to get it up to a manageable height, then use the reliable bottle jack to lift. Downside being trail-recovery is painfully slow and limited without a hi-lift. Still have plans to purchase a hi-lift, just trying to sort which to get first.
 

GordoSmasho

Observer
Ive had mine a few years. It is an invaluable tool on the trail. Ive used mine alot with both small and large tires, inflated and deflated. You will not have an issue. Oddly enough ive never used it on my own rig. Just that handy. Dosens of times on other rigs.
 

falfrenzy

Observer
Whoops! It's for a 2015 Ram 1500. I had the stock scissor jack fold up on me when I used it to chance a spare. Got a new one under warranty but it's been retired to a last-resort jack stand now.

Ideally I would have a bottle / scissor jack as well as a hi-lift, (the more options for recovery/repair, the better).

My 2012 Ram scissor jack folded up on me too. No surprise that FCA didn't change the design. The ground has to be perfectly flat for those POS factory jacks.
 

BADDANDY

Adventurer
Couldn't you use the jack mate hooked onto any bumper/slider/exposed frame to lift the vehicle instead of hooking it to the wheel?
 

GordoSmasho

Observer
Couldn't you use the jack mate hooked onto any bumper/slider/exposed frame to lift the vehicle instead of hooking it to the wheel?

What would be the benefit of that?

Then you have to lift higher to droop the suspension out just to get the tire off the ground. When all you need to lift is the tire, why lift the jeep.

My jeep has way to much suspension to even think thats possible. Maybe on a car.
 

BADDANDY

Adventurer
What would be the benefit of that?

Then you have to lift higher to droop the suspension out just to get the tire off the ground. When all you need to lift is the tire, why lift the jeep.

My jeep has way to much suspension to even think thats possible. Maybe on a car.

Because he said he can't use a hi-lift at all. Better to raise the whole vehicle than nothing at all?
 

GordoSmasho

Observer
Because he said he can't use a hi-lift at all. Better to raise the whole vehicle than nothing at all?

He has no lift points though. If he uses it without proper lift pints you can easily damage your vehicle or your self. Get the lift mate. It will do what you need it to do safely and not damage your vehicle.
 

GordoSmasho

Observer

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