iPad Pro vs Surface Pro 4

[Root Moose]

Please explain to me how Macs are locked down.

Of course you have to have native binaries compiled for the underlying operating system - if you want to run the program natively.

You can't run Linux binaries on Windows natively either. Windows is so locked down. For profit of course! <?>

You can't run Windows binaries on Linux natively either. Linux is so locked down. For profit of course! <derp />

For open source software, start here:

http://brew.sh/

There are other ways of doing it but that works and nowadays is likely the most approachable method. You could compile everything from source using XCode manually if you were a masochist. Gee, the nerve of Apple providing a free compiler to write your own programs, the evil b@st!ds!

If that is beyond you there is lots of shareware out there outside of the Apple store, much like there is for Windows.

The fact that there are free virtual machine systems available for all the major operating systems must have escaped your notice also. You can run anything on anything these days. On the workstation I am sitting at right now I have Windows and Linux running in virtual machines under the native OSX operating system. And it didn't cost me a penny other than the Windows software license.

Behind the times... that's laughable indeed.

 

[nwoods]

please provide me some proof that you can run anything other than OSX programs on a stock mac. They are locked down. For profits of course. Mac is actually so far behind the times in computing that it's laughable.

I run multiple programs that are not Apple approved, including Scroll Reverser, HyperDock, Divvy, and a few other utilities I can't recall right now. I also run Win10 and dozens of Windows only apps, including heavy duty apps such as Revit and Bluebeam, I run them all concurrently, there is no divination between OSX or Win10, just one desktop, one profile, they both use the same Docs, Photos, Movies, Apps, etc.... folders and locations. Parallels in Convergance mode rocks.

Try that on a Windows device.

 

[Ryanmb21]

Word

 

[lysol]

There was a time not too long ago that Mac OS couldn't even read NTFS without 3rd party software... just sayin...

 

[kojackJKU]

Please explain to me how Macs are locked down.

Of course you have to have native binaries compiled for the underlying operating system - if you want to run the program natively.

You can't run Linux binaries on Windows natively either. Windows is so locked down. For profit of course! <?>

You can't run Windows binaries on Linux natively either. Linux is so locked down. For profit of course! <derp />

For open source software, start here:

http://brew.sh/

There are other ways of doing it but that works and nowadays is likely the most approachable method. You could compile everything from source using XCode manually if you were a masochist. Gee, the nerve of Apple providing a free compiler to write your own programs, the evil b@st!ds!

If that is beyond you there is lots of shareware out there outside of the Apple store, much like there is for Windows.

The fact that there are free virtual machine systems available for all the major operating systems must have escaped your notice also. You can run anything on anything these days. On the workstation I am sitting at right now I have Windows and Linux running in virtual machines under the native OSX operating system. And it didn't cost me a penny other than the Windows software license.

Behind the times... that's laughable indeed.

Hacking **** is not what I am talking about. Also, running bootcamp or parallels does not work for all windows software. We were using proprietary software written for windows in my last business, and on a mac using boot camp, it would not work correctly. Enter a real windows machine, and it worked fine. No matter what windows machine it was.

Plus, apple has no touch support other than in IOS, that's pretty back in the 90s as well.

 

[Root Moose]

PEBKAC

 

[nwoods]

PEBKAC

Lol. I haven't heard that one in awhile.

 

[Root Moose]

There was a time not too long ago that Mac OS couldn't even read NTFS without 3rd party software... just sayin...

Can Windows read hfs+ without third party software?

NFS?

AFP?

Just sayin'.

 

[Root Moose]

Hacking? What hacking was implied in my response?

 

[Root Moose]

Word

Which runs beautifully under Mac OSX BTW, much nicer than the Windows native version if you don't need access to the MS scripting VB.

 

[kojackJKU]

again beg to differ on word working better. Works great on my surface. Was wonky on my mac. As was most things really.

 

[nwoods]

Hacking **** is not what I am talking about. Also, running bootcamp or parallels does not work for all windows software. We were using proprietary software written for windows in my last business, and on a mac using boot camp, it would not work correctly. Enter a real windows machine, and it worked fine. No matter what windows machine it was.

Plus, apple has no touch support other than in IOS, that's pretty back in the 90s as well.

Not sure what issues your windows software had, but it should not happen in BootCamp, as it's an Intel based machine language just like on a PC. I think your software was buggy, or written for a very specific BIOS/motherboard chipset. Not a Windows or a Mac issue, just bad (or inflexible) programming.

There is a trick to getting the full Mac touch pad features to work in Windows, but fortunately there is a free utility called TrackPad++ that allows you to use all the OS X gestures within Windows natively (if you are running Boot Camp, not necessary if running Parallels): http://trackpad.powerplan7.com

There is another app that helps improve Windows battery management on the Mac hardware. It's free: http://www.powerplan7.com/home.htm
Again, only necessary if you use BootCamp.

 

[kojackJKU]

I am not taking about touchpad, I am talking about touch screens. I use them all the time. My surface is connected to a touch screen at home. It works awesome, for graphics etc. Again, The surface line is so far ahead of the apple Mac line now. We shall get back on topic now.

Surface pro 4 is 10000x the machine a ipad pro is considering the ipad pro is just a big ipad and the surface pro is a desktop, laptop tablet that does all those features well with real software.

 

[chromisdesigns]

Nice thing about the Surface Pro is that it runs Windows. On the down side, it runs Windows...!

 

[kojackJKU]

Could be worse, Could run OSX or heaven forbid, IOS.....