Turns out I need a real truck. Kindly help me choose one!

TexasSixSeven

Observer
Plenty (most?) on here are parents. When we had our first, we just stacked stuff in the Landcruiser. Pack n play, REI tent, some sort of air mattress, then headed out. All good and fun memories. Don’t overcomplicate things in your head before getting some real world experience of just being out there. Do an overnighter close by and see how it goes. Who cares if you don’t have the latest bjorn baby cradle or an overland tactical diaper changing station? You’ll make it work.
Babies sleep anywhere and everywhere and they don’t complain about it lol
 

TexasSixSeven

Observer
Some dealers have you put down a deposit on a factory order. If so, then it’ll depend if it’s refundable or non refundable deposit. Personally I wouldn’t do either. I’ve ordered 4 trucks, and I’ve put a grand total of $0 down. I walked away from one of those trucks due to the dealership being slimeballs at the time of purchase once the truck arrived. I bought an almost identical truck later than afternoon for the same price as I agreed to with the original dealer, and they were more than happy to steal the sale.
 

Tex68w

Beach Bum
Run from bad dealers, if you have to ask then you already know the answer. Kids will sleep where you put them, they acclimate just like anything else. It's easy to get fixated on all the "things" and the idea of "must have's" but in reality very little of it is necessary and many of us have done the whole two steps forward and one step back in regards to pricey mods/accessories. Take it from those of us here who have already spent the big money many times over. We are giving you the honest advice you seek, which may not be the advice you want to hear in order to validate your desires, it's a tough pill to swallow.
 
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Todd780

OverCamper
It's easy to get fixated on all the "things" and the idea of "must have's" but in reality very little of it is necessary and many of us have done the whole two steps forward and one step back in regards to pricey mods/accessories. Take it from those of us here who have already spent the big money many times over. We are giving you the honest advice you seek, which may not be the advice you want to hear in order to validate your desires, it's a tough pill to swallow.
Some sage advise here too. Well put.
 

chet6.7

Explorer
I’m working on it. I just don’t want to deal with a dealer with very bad reputation and shady tactics.
I understand vehicle sales folks are ******. Something I read once, how do you know your dealership personnel are lying... their lips are moving.
Good hunting.
 

TexasSixSeven

Observer
Are they factory LED ?

Used the fixture as a roof pass-through, yes, but piggyback for power, not so sure.

I dont be surprised if the clearance lights are supplied by minimun guage wiring and on a circuit that wont tolerate much added load.
Im with you. There’s no way I’d use the clearance light circuitry for off road lights. While I could see using the pass through as being tempting, I’d likely refrain from it as well. Just run greater risk of causing a leak that won’t be covered under warranty. I’d run the cable up a bedside rack or the camper, and run to the roof that way.
 

phsycle

Adventurer
I’m working on it. I just don’t want to deal with a dealer with very bad reputation and shady tactics.

I’d be less inclined to work with a bad dealer on a used car. But for a new car, still have your guard up and look over every document twice…, but I’d give it a shot if it’s the truck that will work for you. You can take it to another dealer you trust post purchase for any issues.
 

andy_b

Well-known member
Seems like easy ready connections in case I want lights in front of the rack down the road.

As others have said, don't do it. They will not provide enough power to run the EXPO EXTREME roof lights you're imagining. They could be used to trigger relays, but then you'd still have to run larger gauge conductors for power and end up doing the work you're hoping to avoid.

Also, no amount of discount is worth the headache to work with a dealer with those kind of ratings. Put another way, how much would they have to pay you to put up with the spectacular BS that awaits?

Also, also - as other parents have already said, getting out > perfect setup. But, I would be lying if I said it doesn't help lol! Our kiddo did not sleep anywhere, ever. We had a similar setup to what you're aiming for but in the end, it was still suboptimal. We just finished the "perfect" camper and it works great. The main reason it is successful though is because we have camped with our baby in a suboptimal setup to evolve to what has been pretty great.
 

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