Packing Heat...who does it?

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modelbuilder

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And since you're a Californian, maybe you could even explain to me how someone in your state could even legally carry without being a police officer or an actor/politician, since those are the only people who are allowed Permits.

Are you talking about concealed weapons? Or open carry?

I just got off the phone with my brother.

In California you are allowed to open carry as long as your gun is not loaded(again from conversations with my brother), and you are not in a school zone, government building, or post office. Conceivably you could walk around your block with a holstered gun.

Unloaded firearms carried in a belt holster is not considered concealed under California law.
 
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Scenic WonderRunner

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Are you talking about concealed weapons? Or open carry?

I just got off the phone with my brother.

In California you are allowed to open carry as long as your gun is not loaded(again from conversations with my brother), and you are not in a school zone, government building, or post office. Conceivably you could walk around your block with a holstered gun.

Unloaded firearms carried in a belt holster is not considered concealed under California law.

I'm not trying to be smart. Serious Question!

Please ask you brother if it would be legal to open carry a .45 on your right hip, unloaded.......and two loaded magazines in your back left pocket! And walk down your street.

I've always wondered about this portion of the CA. gun law.



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modelbuilder

Guest
Try not to be such a smart a*s....:luxhello: Just kidding!!!

According to what he said yes it is legal to do that.

He equates it to public drinking. You can drink anything you want walking down the street as long as its in a paper bag. Take that bag off and you are illegally drinking in public. Doesn't make much sense to me either.
 
You Californians just go ahead and do that. I nearly guarantee you will be met with the threat of force by a Law Enforcement Officer for "Brandishing", or possibly "Assault" if open carry is attempted.

California Open Carry = Jail Time
 
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modelbuilder

Guest
I agree...you would have to be a big time doo doo head to do that.
 
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Fergie

Expedition Leader
So you're basing the whole idea that someone on the internet *might* find out you carry concealed, and somehow in a random robbery that *might* be used in the favor of someone who is intent on something bad? Okee dokey pinokie.

No, more of a query to determine the state of mind and thought process of gun owners. Don't read too much in to it.

And yes, carrying openly is stupid as hell unless you're a cowboy or cop.
Or a criminal. 'Tis fine line.

So why would someone on the internet openly discuss it? For conversation. And the likelihood of his discussion of his practice being used against him? Low. Extremely low. In fact, I challenge anyone to give me a scenario where someone who talks about it on the internet would be in any danger out in the real world of carrying concealed.

Again, just trying to determine how folks think. Generally, folks that like to discuss such topics on the internet, also like to discuss topics openly in other situations. With as many sheep and wolves as there are in the world, playing your cards close to your vest is a smart thing to do for the sheepdogs. Why let people know one way or another?

If you're so "worried" about people who carry concealed, then maybe that's a trust issue you have with your fellow countryman. I won't judge as to whether or not that's a valid worry, that's for each person to decide. I for one not only treat everyone as if they are carrying, I expect and encourage each person to carry concealed.
Not worried in the least; and I don't for one second trust an unknown person, countryman or not.

Maybe I should run around telling everyone I am defenseless instead of carrying? (I don't advertise either.) Maybe that would keep the baddies away?
Tell people what you'd like. If they know, either way, you've lost the advantage.

And since you're a Californian, maybe you could even explain to me how someone in your state could even legally carry without being a police officer or an actor/politician, since those are the only people who are allowed Permits.

Nope, just serving time here.
 
Tell people what you'd like. If they know, either way, you've lost the advantage.
Which is why one chooses to carry concealed. Because you just don't know. And knowing is half the battle.



I find it more risky that people put up pictures of their $40k+ modded rigs with their license plates showing. Especially since those can actually be tracked down, and parts removed/sold with much less risk of being caught than whatever you would do to someone who carries a gun.
 
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kcowyo

ExPo Original
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Save the derogatory slang for another place gentlemen.

You may debate the merits of carrying weapons all you want. There will be no debating the use of crude language used on this forum.


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Coastal Defender said:
With that said, and to go along with the tenor of the site lately-

This thread has NOTHING to do with adventure travel!

If I were a moderator, I'd axe it a heartbeat!


Don't tempt me. But instead of nuking the whole thread, I'm thinking of starting with random, snarky comments.

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UK4X4

Expedition Leader
I carry a fully loaded weimeraner at all times out in the boonies

street legal, multi tasking weapon

double as a foot warmer when put in sleep mode :)
 

frgtwn

Adventurer
Hearsay!

[QUOTE

He equates it to public drinking. You can drink anything you want walking down the street as long as its in a paper bag. Take that bag off and you are illegally drinking in public. Doesn't make much sense to me either.[/QUOTE]




One must be careful with these kinds of things, as hearsay has no merit, especially when the law provides for something else. Know the law.




Here is an example, from the California Business and Professional Code. And yes, the arresting officer will know the code.




25620. (a) Any person possessing any can, bottle, or other
receptacle containing any alcoholic beverage that has been opened, or
a seal broken, or the contents of which have been partially removed,
in any city, county, or city and county owned park or other city,
county, or city and county owned public place, or any recreation and
park district, or any regional park or open-space district shall be
guilty of an infraction if the city, county, or city and county has
enacted an ordinance that prohibits the possession of those
containers in those areas or the consumption of alcoholic beverages
in those areas.
(b) This section does not apply where the possession is within
premises located in a park or other public place for which a license
has been issued pursuant to this division.
(c) This section does not apply when an individual is in
possession of an alcoholic beverage container for the purpose of
recycling or other related activity.
 
Thanks!
Always wondered what Im allowed to do, with what, and where.

Seriously, if you open carry in Cali and a LEO sees you, he will draw his weapon, instruct you in no uncertain terms to get on your face, then he will disarm you, cuff you, take you into custody, run your infomation, possibly process you at a local jail, then inform you that you shouldn't be doing that, EVEN THOUGH IT'S LEGAL, and most likely be charged with "Brandishing", "Disturbing the Peace", or possibly "Assault".
 

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