Ive had my $ down for well over 2 months on a set of 19.5 but was told today that im looking atleast till March to get them. So after being told late Dec its slowly blowing out till march and im losing intrest fast. My rig has the original 16s on it what can i do to get more top end (bigger tyre options) or some 19.5 made here and not (take forever) china Thanks Tony
Any srw options
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G'day Tony,
We tried the 825's on the 16" rims with some success, get Michelins if you can, they balance alot easier and stay balanced.
The only Tyre we could find that wouldn't cut up on Cape York was a dodgy looking mud tyre made from, what I was told, was a natural Rubber compound??? Most are similar to Sikaflex type compounds without getting buried in the subject.....
They were called Ling Long I think, we used to joke about them because of the name, bastard to balance and bastard to keep balanced.
Hope this helps,
Chocko
BTW, a mates tour company that still runs Fraser Island are currently experimenting with SRW using the 825. With some success I was told.
We tried the 825's on the 16" rims with some success, get Michelins if you can, they balance alot easier and stay balanced.
The only Tyre we could find that wouldn't cut up on Cape York was a dodgy looking mud tyre made from, what I was told, was a natural Rubber compound??? Most are similar to Sikaflex type compounds without getting buried in the subject.....
They were called Ling Long I think, we used to joke about them because of the name, bastard to balance and bastard to keep balanced.
Hope this helps,
Chocko
BTW, a mates tour company that still runs Fraser Island are currently experimenting with SRW using the 825. With some success I was told.
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I have just placed a set of 191/2's on my NPS. The ride is better, the cabin noise is quieter. I would wait if possible
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Didn't yours have the 825s on it?
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That's probably a good thing that I really never gave much thought.
Anything to get off the 7.50 R16, hope she's all coming along nicely for you Wadey.
Have you got any pics yet, or are you struggling to walk over your front lawn without breaking into freestyle or backstroke too???? Bloody Rain Today, more than Olga!!
Anything to get off the 7.50 R16, hope she's all coming along nicely for you Wadey.
Have you got any pics yet, or are you struggling to walk over your front lawn without breaking into freestyle or backstroke too???? Bloody Rain Today, more than Olga!!
Thanks
Yeah thanks guys iv,e looked at the 825s but i really want singles i was looking for xzl s on the 16s but they are very rare and yes i know i should wait but im sort of sick of waiting and whats to say it wont go longer. any way ill keep thinking thanks for any help Tony
Yeah thanks guys iv,e looked at the 825s but i really want singles i was looking for xzl s on the 16s but they are very rare and yes i know i should wait but im sort of sick of waiting and whats to say it wont go longer. any way ill keep thinking thanks for any help Tony
If you do LOTS of serious offroad work then XZLs are definetly the go- i garentee the traction will amaze you- however they do wear fast, and are expensive and somewhat dificult to find. Michelin Australia will get them in for you, but be prepared to have to wait for them- having said that, the last set we got in came 2 months early...
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Hi Tony,
Hang in there if you can as Dave said . Just had a very interesting talk to to one of the Fraser mechanics today. Their 2 buses and 5 Landcruisers each do about 100k's of gravel / dirt ,100 k's of sand and 100k's of tar each day (my rough estimate). He looks after 2 FG's . A 649 on XZL's and an 84 on Toyo's. Both with identical bodies and therefore weight. So it's a good way to compare tyres. I was stunned when he told me has had only one flat in six months with the Toyo's but the drivers are sick of getting punctures in the 649. They average about one a week. Not only that but often they will not realize in time and shred the tyre so mileage doesn't even seem relevant. Most of them aren't seeing a normal and full life. They even leave one stashed up on the island in case they get a second puncture.
To clear this up a bit, the gravel forestry roads they travel are covered in a very sharp gravel which is what does the damage. In the past they were getting punctures virtually every day on at least one of the Landcruisers (once they got 2 together) so they always travelled in convoy. The sharp stones would get stuck between the blocks and just get driven into the tread ply until they punctured the tube or otherwise end up tearing a tread block right off. Quality tyres too.
Same story with the XZL's > not tearing blocks off, you'd never do that I don't think but puncturing the treadply. So I'm not saying the tyres aren't any good. I'm just trying to explain how extreme the conditions are when the trucks are exposed to this day after day after.....shackle rubbers every 2 weeks, springs every 25,000k's, exhaust every 6 months if you're lucky, etc.etc. Get the picture? Hey, some guys go right across Oz with them and not get a puncture but as a comparison of 2 types of tyres in the same extreme and testing conditions it's a fair test, isn't it?
I should add that due to the very dry conditions up in the sand on Fraser over the last 6 to 10 months, the operators are saying the conditions are the worst they have ever experienced. Same with the gravel. Very dry and loose.
The Toyo's on the 84 he brought to us today had 48k on them so they would be the oldest set we've seen on an FG. Unfortunately they had not been rotated regularly and the rears were very distinguishable from the front. Too late to rotate now and they were chipped from being continuously on the drive axle when in 2wd on the gravel. We'll see what they're like in another 20,000k's. The fronts still look fine (blocks rounded off , more from the sand me thinks, but lots of tread epth) which is a shame as had they been rotated in time and regularly, I'm sure the combined mileage would have been better than what we now expect. I took a pic of the worst tyre (below) . It's never had a wheel alignment either looks to need a toe in adjustment. Slack....
The bottom line from the mechanic (and part time driver) was that all though they get bogged a little more (and he stressed only a little) in the 84, it's still much better than changing flats and forking out $800 bucks for a new tyre far more often than he'd like. His words not mine.
I really wasn't sure how they were going to fare up till this point so today's conversation was reassuring to say the least.
Hang in there if you can as Dave said . Just had a very interesting talk to to one of the Fraser mechanics today. Their 2 buses and 5 Landcruisers each do about 100k's of gravel / dirt ,100 k's of sand and 100k's of tar each day (my rough estimate). He looks after 2 FG's . A 649 on XZL's and an 84 on Toyo's. Both with identical bodies and therefore weight. So it's a good way to compare tyres. I was stunned when he told me has had only one flat in six months with the Toyo's but the drivers are sick of getting punctures in the 649. They average about one a week. Not only that but often they will not realize in time and shred the tyre so mileage doesn't even seem relevant. Most of them aren't seeing a normal and full life. They even leave one stashed up on the island in case they get a second puncture.
To clear this up a bit, the gravel forestry roads they travel are covered in a very sharp gravel which is what does the damage. In the past they were getting punctures virtually every day on at least one of the Landcruisers (once they got 2 together) so they always travelled in convoy. The sharp stones would get stuck between the blocks and just get driven into the tread ply until they punctured the tube or otherwise end up tearing a tread block right off. Quality tyres too.
Same story with the XZL's > not tearing blocks off, you'd never do that I don't think but puncturing the treadply. So I'm not saying the tyres aren't any good. I'm just trying to explain how extreme the conditions are when the trucks are exposed to this day after day after.....shackle rubbers every 2 weeks, springs every 25,000k's, exhaust every 6 months if you're lucky, etc.etc. Get the picture? Hey, some guys go right across Oz with them and not get a puncture but as a comparison of 2 types of tyres in the same extreme and testing conditions it's a fair test, isn't it?
I should add that due to the very dry conditions up in the sand on Fraser over the last 6 to 10 months, the operators are saying the conditions are the worst they have ever experienced. Same with the gravel. Very dry and loose.
The Toyo's on the 84 he brought to us today had 48k on them so they would be the oldest set we've seen on an FG. Unfortunately they had not been rotated regularly and the rears were very distinguishable from the front. Too late to rotate now and they were chipped from being continuously on the drive axle when in 2wd on the gravel. We'll see what they're like in another 20,000k's. The fronts still look fine (blocks rounded off , more from the sand me thinks, but lots of tread epth) which is a shame as had they been rotated in time and regularly, I'm sure the combined mileage would have been better than what we now expect. I took a pic of the worst tyre (below) . It's never had a wheel alignment either looks to need a toe in adjustment. Slack....
The bottom line from the mechanic (and part time driver) was that all though they get bogged a little more (and he stressed only a little) in the 84, it's still much better than changing flats and forking out $800 bucks for a new tyre far more often than he'd like. His words not mine.
I really wasn't sure how they were going to fare up till this point so today's conversation was reassuring to say the least.
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