The 2011 Jeep LACK OF DIESEL thread....

Metcalf

Expedition Leader
Come one, come all, rant and vent about the LACK of Jeep allowing us to have the option to buy a DIESEL jeep Wrangler in 2011 here!!!!!!

The new figures for the 2011 Jeep Wrangler Diesel where released at Jeep UK.

2-Door Wrangler Sport Diesel Manual. ( adjusted for US gallons )
33.1 mpg combined cycle
36.2 mpg urban cycle
28.3 mpg city cycle

4-door Wrangler Sport Diesel Auto ( adjusted for US gallons )
24.7 mpg combined cycle
29.4 mpg urban cycle
19.3 mpg city cycle

Why oh why won't you listed Jeep! Personally, I will be giving an earful to the Jeep engineers at Easter Jeep Safari this spring!

Edit: after looking over some more specs, it looks like the 4-door figures above are for the OLDER diesel engine, not the 2011 version. 2011 version specs for the 2-door as far as I can tell.
 

SSF556

SE Expedition Society
I love my Diesel Grand Cherokee....do not think it helps the Wrangler situation though....

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Metcalf

Expedition Leader
Some specs on the new 2011 2.8 CRD that we ARE NOT getting in the USA. We make them here, but we can't sell them here......

197hp @ 3600rpm
340 ft lbs from 1600-2600rpm ( auto version )
0-62mph - 11.2 seconds

More info from the press release

Jeep Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited with New 2.8-liter Diesel Engine, Stop/Start Technology, New Interior and New Body-color Hard Top

Jeep continues to refine the successful Wrangler formula by combining its legendary, benchmark capability with a new 2.8-liter turbo diesel engine with fuel-saving Stop/Start technology, a new and upgraded interior, and a new body-color hard top for the popular Sahara model.

Jeep Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited now offer a new 2.8-liter turbo diesel engine for markets outside North America. This new engine improves power to 200 hp DIN (147 kW) at 3,600 rpm, a 13-percent improvement over the prior 2.8-liter diesel engine. Torque for the new engine comes in at 410 N•m at 2,000-3,200 rpm with the six-speed manual transmission and 460 N•m at 1,600-2,600 rpm with the W5A580 five-speed automatic transmission.

The proven W5A580 automatic transmission is new to Wrangler and will deliver smooth shifts and optimum fuel consumption. The W5A580 transmission includes adaptive electronic control or Electronic Range Select (ERS) driver-interactive manual control and an electronically modulated torque converter clutch.

Jeep Wrangler's diesel engine, when paired with the manual transmission, incorporates Stop/Start technology – the first application of this technology on a Chrysler Group vehicle. With Stop/Start, the engine is shut off when the vehicle is stopped, the shift gear is in Neutral, and the clutch is released. The engine then restarts automatically when the clutch pedal is depressed. Drivers can deactivate the technology via a button on the dashboard, and an icon displays in the instrument panel to indicate the Stop/Start status.

An upgraded starter and alternator improve durability, and a DC/DC power converter maintains electronic feature functionality while the vehicle is stopped. Stop/Start technology improves fuel efficiency and reduces CO2 emissions by managing the amount of time the engine runs. For the new Jeep Wrangler family, fuel economy is improved by up to 13 percent, and CO2 emissions are reduced by up to 14 percent.

Other improvements and features incorporated into the new Euro V, 2.8-liter diesel engine include:
• Four valves per cylinder and double overhead camshaft (DOHC) with belt drive
• 1800-bar common-rail fuel injection system
• Piezo electric injectors
• Variable geometry turbocharger
• New composite intake manifold
• New exhaust gas recirculation (EGR) system
• Reduced friction ring pack
• Electric swirl control
• Oil and exhaust temperature sensors
• Standard diesel particulate filter (DPF)
• Additional adjustments for improved noise, vibration and harshness (NVH)

The new Jeep Wrangler continues to be the most capable off-road vehicle and now brings a significantly quieter cabin, pleasing on-road ride and handling and reduced overall NVH. Wrangler now gives customers a driving experience similar to the mid-size Jeep Cherokee, but with the 4x4 mastery to handle any extreme off-road conditions.

Jeep Wrangler's interior highlights include a redesigned instrument panel and new storage areas with improved ergonomics and upgraded materials. A new console and upgraded door armrest areas boast comfortable touch points, while a redesigned center stack is easier to reach and operate. Automatic temperature control, heated seats and power heated mirrors are now available, and drivers and passengers will enjoy enhanced visibility courtesy of larger rear windows.

New steering-wheel controls allow the driver to operate the radio, speed control, hands-free phone and other vehicle functions while keeping hands on the wheel. A new USB device interface connects to storage devices (thumb drives and most MP3 players) for use with the vehicle's Media Center, which now includes streaming Bluetooth audio.

In line with traditional Jeep design, hex-head bolts are utilized throughout the interior and are used to mount a "Jeep, Since 1941" inlay onto the new passenger grab handle.

To provide a more premium appearance, Jeep Wrangler Sahara models boast a new, premium, body-color hard top. In addition, several new Wrangler colors will be available, including Deep Cherry Red Crystal, Detonator Yellow, Sahara Tan, Cosmos Blue and Bright White.

The new Jeep Wrangler and Wrangler Unlimited will be available in markets outside North America starting in early 2011.
 

JeffRRC

Adventurer
I just read an article in Motor Trend that says Jeep will be bringing diesels to the U.S. in the near future. I will believe it when they are sitting in the dealers lots. However, I will buy one when they bring them. Hurry up, already!
 

x32792

Adventurer
I just read an article in Motor Trend that says Jeep will be bringing diesels to the U.S. in the near future. I will believe it when they are sitting in the dealers lots. However, I will buy one when they bring them. Hurry up, already!

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utjeeper

New member
I love my 08 JKU Rubicon and plan on keeping it for years. But if a diesel engine is introduced, I will be looking to trade up assuming they have not ruined the off road capability with other changes.
 
Land Cruiser nuts have been crying for diesel 70 series in the US for DECADES.
Look where it has gotten them - nowhere.
I'm thinking of buying a 1HD-T powered 79 series pickup from Proffitt's Cruisers.


Charlie
 

4Rescue

Expedition Leader
A Diesel JKU-Overland (complete with the in tegrated rack/roll-cage, and a Manual tranny - Or just a 3dr J8 with Factory Lockers and SB-Disco's again, MANUAL TRANNY please) could make me back into a Jeep owner again eh.

As the the previous post about Jeep saying they're bringing Diesel's over here: I'll belive it when I see it. I read an article in C&D a few months/issues back that said something about them bringing a Diesel-hybrid to market and with America's crazy misunderstanding of Diesel's and thier craze over "hybrids" (most US buyers seem to think this is a single type of tech. when it's anything but) I could see that happening long beofre we get a proper stand-alone Diesel power-plant... Too bad really, diesel could very well save the planet But hey, that's just my crazy theory and capitalism is far more important then the world having a clean safe, readily available energy source eh (I'm thinking Bio-haul here... Imagine if all the little island nations could just build large algae tanks and make enough fuel to run the whole nation on a years crop... No more BP/Exxon Vadez like disasters etc... Like I said, Money is more important then the safety and health of the planet eh ;) ) Sorry for the political view-rant but Diesel's are a hot spot for me... I love them and it drives me NUTS that we just can't get them (in what I want one in - Got a TDi Jetta Wagon in the Fam and it's AWESOME but it just won't quite serve as replacement for my 4Runner eh) because "we don't want them" BS, alot of us want them, just like alot of us want a small practical 4wd Pick-up that seems to have completely dissapeared from the N.American market.

What I'm saying in a round about way is that I think we'll see a hybrid(maybe even a diesel hybrid) Jeep before we see a REAL factory Diesel Wrangler...

...I'm thinking of buying a 1HD-T powered 79 series pickup from Proffitt's Cruisers...
If I could swing the cost, I'd have one of these beauties tomorow (course I REALLY want a troopy but right now I'm so desperate ANY 70-series would do...) Aside from the G-Wagen and maybe some of the Patrols, IMO NOTHING can hold a candle to the mighty 70 series It truly is one of the greatest passenger/utility 4x4's ever made (Mogs, Pinzy's and 303's excluded as they're hardly readilly available and more like fast tractors then the 70 - although the 70 is planty "tractorish" when need arises) I'd prefer an older gen with the pointy nose and either a 1HD-t or 1HZ-T and a manual gear box... Course the early 70-series are finnaly able to be imported but having lived and worked with them in Australia I can guess they've all been worked over pretty well already eh ;)

Anyway, sorry for the OT Toyota talk, I can't help myself...

Cheers

Dave
 

96discoXD

Adventurer
Count me as another who would be in line quickly to order a new JKU with the 2.8 diesel engine, particularly if it were available in rubicon trim or at least with the rubicon axles and t-case. I just bought my 2010 sport and I love it but I would trade up in a second to have the diesel.
Sergio, are you listening????:coffee:
 

Storz

Explorer
I am a rabid Land Rover fan, but the minute I can get an Unlimited with a diesel I am there. My wife's daily driver is an 05 Jetta TDI that has been nothing but perfect for us, my mom just bought a 2011 A3 TDI and its incredible. I WANT MORE DIESELS!!!
 
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matthewp

Combat Truck Monkey
To add on to 4Rescues comments, if the US market "doesn't want" a diesel Jeep, why did the Liberty CRD sell ALL the 10,000 units made (and double the estimated 5,000 Chrysler thought they were going to sell... yes, the same folks who also think we don't want a diesel JK! Hmm!)? Also, from what I've read, the diesel Grand was a good seller too!

I'd give my eye teeth to find out the real reason Jeep won't bring diesel to the US market again.
 

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