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Ok if you say so... Hey, I am for equal access for all user groups, not just a select privilege few, end of story? :snorkel: I hike, bicycle, ride horse back, dirt bike, snow board, and/or take the truck. Depending on my mood depends on what piece of equipment I grab out of the garage. All of...

Nah totally different!!! [sarcasm] :elkgrin: Yea, kinda like you saying you only mostly see ATV and Side by Side tracks running amuck off trail. There I'd fixed it for ya! (lets all point fingers!):snorkel:

Yep, that is why I said we need to "share" a couple posts back. But no one likes to play nice anymore, it seems like it is all or nothing from both camps. Such is the nature of Man, to fight one another.

I appreciated that, that was very nice of you. You seem like a very nice guy. Geeze don't take things personally! I was generalizing. You helped me with information on NZ travel, but from some of your posts I would assume you would throw me under a bus for back country access. My whole point...

Good points Martyn. What it boils down to is, I think a lot of us are fed up with fighting with the environmentalist, which they have far more fire power than the Pro-Access groups, especially now since it is trendy to be "Green". How many of the anti's actually go out and use the back...

I have seen mules and coyotes near the fence line, I tuck tail and run the opposite direction. I have a couple friends who were the engineers/foreman on the project. Some of it is impassable for deer, cattle, kudamundi, etc. While some of it is simply anti-vehicle fence, which nothing a mini...

Funny. (a little off topic) I am fairly certain that border fence is screwing up the animal migration that has been happening for thousands of years, and well the human migration that has been going on for thousands of years...

Exactly! Funny movie. We don't have any spawn, so does that counteract the destruction my dirt bike causes?:elkgrin: How many carbon credits do I get for not having children? [sarcasm]:ylsmoke:

While I do love my truck. It is paid for and has been for years now. I am at the 230'000 mile mark, it is getting tired. I would love to have a new one, but the economy has wrecked my business, I don't see a new one on the horizon anytime real soon....so I keep on fixin' what I have. My...

It is called "Holier-Than-Thou":snorkel: The Land must be saved for Their Children! ummm yeah, bringing more humans into the World is probably the worse thing one could do to the environment...

Yeah, you'll never see Mother Earth on trial. The largest cause of World wide destruction know to man that is not from outer space. Funny how "they" use our tax dollars to shut the tax paying public out of their public lands. I know all too well on how they use EAJA. We just need some down and...

:victory: Glad you feel that way!:snorkel: There are a lot of environmentalist on this forum I have learned they will more likely throw you under a bus than give a helping hand. If I give links to our hard work, it will just give them another area to shut down, which they are trying their best...

Seems pretty broad to me... We have "stepped it up". The organizations that I belong to, have designated routes, have worked closely with the BLM, Forest Service, and the local communities. There is plenty of room out there for everyone to share the land, but no it is constant battle with the...

The studies are going to prove what? That some humans have unquenchable thirst to control things that they can't control, Man and nature. That environmentalist some how are above everyone else? Where do these people live anyway? I am fairly sure that the homes they live in were once wild...

Nice!!! I have one of those too. Instead of "Dual Sport" rides, we dub them "Cruel Sport". Very little pavement, a bunch of miles, dirt roads, technical single track, free riding, jumping, huge drops, etc. Make ya earn that beer at the end of the day. Trail Tech does great work for stators and...

What ever happened to doing what our mothers taught us? "Sharing" But no, radical environmental groups don't like to share. They need to read this book: Scenes in America Deserta, especially the chapter Man and Mojave. http://www.amazon.com/Scenes-America-Deserta-Reyner-Banham/dp/0262521431

Maybe they ran out.....:sombrero:

I received an e-mail noticed, probably about 1 (+- a day or two) week before this thread appeared, ordered it then. It came from Vegas.

Mine came in yesterday....it is bigger than the original, not pannier friendly. Oh well, at least I now have a backup to my original copy.