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Wow!. Thanks a lot!. So the argument would be, because I'm already messing with new bed, I can take advantage of the process to do the modifications needed to put the 37" spare where it needs to be, under the bed. This is brilliant! How come very few people do this? Could you elaborate a bit...

I’ve given considerable thought to this. My commitment to AEV brings a certain constraint. If managed correctly, I could obtain a credit for the unused rear bumper and fender flares when opting for a custom bed. Plus, the costs for a solution in the spare space might be reduced if addressed...

Right now, the most important decision is: Do we go with the custom bed or not? In a ram 3500 the drawers seem big enough to actually do interesting things with them. Im thinking about using the spare wheel empty space for an air compressor, wonder if that can be integrated into the bed to...

Thank you for this. I saw a Bowen walkaround where they stated the increase weight was 150lbs...So I would account for 250lbs Ostensibly, the Bowen people know how to deal with these: Just want to make a copy of this info:

First, lets update our payload estimations. This critical issue is subject to Parkinson's Law, which can be interpreted as: the observation that the payload use expands to fill its allotted max payload capacity, regardless of the amount of one's needs. Naturally, this list will undergo...

The motivation behind this thread is to chronicle the decision-making process of the build, garner feedback, and hopefully serve as a useful resource for fellow travelers in the future. The vision for this build revolves around crafting an off-road capable vehicle that's comfortable enough to...

this is very interesting and concordant with Parkinson's Law, which in our case it would be something like this: the observation that the payload use expands to fill its allotted max payload capacity, regardless of the amount of one's needs. Could you comment on how much weight (if any) the...

Thanks for the reference. Do you know of others with similar quality?

I have considered this issue, and I realized it’s a bit more complicated when you consider the swing rack to carry the spare tire + bikes, which will interfere with the camera. I guess I will have to experiment with diff angle/height combinations. Thanks for documenting this useful minutia.

Certainly an adversarial encounter. It’s sad that the most powerful consumer group in the history of the world is subjected to this medieval process. I would classify this in the “rent seeking” category. Nobody benefits from the dealer model except the dealers themselves and the low human...

Correct. Thinking a separate thread could be more useful for the forum, since this one is quite large already.

Thanks everybody for the feedback. We found a truck. Some compromises were made to optimize cost, wait time, delivery logistics and personal preferences. MSRP $91970 Invoice $86571 Selling Price $76400 Out the Door$ 81095 (taxes and Doc fee) Looking forward to your input during the build...

An update coming soon….

Do show!

I’m working on it. I just don’t want to deal with a dealer with very bad reputation and shady tactics.

Seems like easy ready connections in case I want lights in front of the rack down the road.

I might be able to get my dealer to trade it and I will deal only with them. This car has almost everything I want. A couple things I can add. And the only big miss is the clearance lights.

that's something I need to figure out.

Yes....I'm tempted to: 1. Custom order the truck and wait whatever it takes. 2. Find a solution so the wife doesn't go crazy from April to whatever date we have the setup ready. We'll see. I really appreciate everybody's input.

Is there any discount over MSRP level that would change your mind?