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  1. catmann

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    IF you think LR did not test the Defender thoroughly, check out the dog-paw test: https://teamtalk.jaguarlandrover.com/news/top-dog-making-sure-the-new-land-rover-defender-is-up-to-scratch
  2. catmann

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    Look out for the Defender Sport: Defender family L860 is said to be the code for a potential additional Land Rover, expected to be launched in 2021 as part of plans to expand the Defender name into a model line in its own right. The current thinking is believed to be a vision to create a...
  3. catmann

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    Some random photos I missed or did not catch my attention at launch: Roof top tent (with ladder this time): Folding panoramic roof which does not seem to inhibit any accessories:
  4. catmann

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    Was re-reading an Autocar article after the new Defender launch and caught this tidbit about the diesels... Meanwhile, an additional, more powerful diesel engine is said to be under development for 2021. The six-cylinder D300 will deliver a 0-62mph time rumoured to be below 8sec and is being...
  5. catmann

    Land Rover TREK series coming back

    I presume the Trek finals are going to coincide with this event: https://4xfar.com/
  6. catmann

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    First Tasman Blue one I have seen: I'd have to see it in daylight I think.
  7. catmann

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    Here are a couple more shots of that same Defender:
  8. catmann

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    They put the roof top tent on but no ladder? How do you get up there? Or is the ladder on the other side for right hand drive vehicles? Looks like JLR wants you to believe there is no Gold at the end of a rainbow, just Land Rovers...
  9. catmann

    Land Rover TREK series coming back

    76 photos of the event are here It looks like an episode of Survivor, maybe Jeff Probst was there calling the play-by-play when they were filming...
  10. catmann

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    I still am not sure where the additional radiators are: I definately read an interview with JLR that stated they were moved up and back from the D5 location specifically because of the likelihood of damage off-road - can't seem to spot them in these photos...
  11. catmann

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    "Designed to prevent luggage or other items stored in the loadspace from entering the passenger compartments". I am thinking my dogs and their slobber fall under the "other items" category. :) The net would probably keep more dog hair in the rear (prevent it from blowing upfront), but the main...
  12. catmann

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    They did this same roll-out proceedure with the D5 and there were certainly still a lot of issues. JLR cannot move that fast, vehicles are being made and shipped a couple months before hitting US dealers, so problems are not always (or even often) fixed until much later when updates are sorted...
  13. catmann

    Who ordered a New Defender ?

    It does not appear JLR is counting on a BEV for the Defender based on this article: https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/jlr-believes-battery-power-not-best-choice-heavy-suvs Also worth noting (as people complained about having 85 ECUs), there appears to be 14 ECU's in the Defender that can...
  14. catmann

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    RedRover is probably referring to old Discovery push-rod engine, not the LR3/LR4. Here is an interesting look at the engines used in production for the most years. The Disco push-rod beast was used for 37 years, but is not even close to the winner...
  15. catmann

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Since you mentioned it, I think my biggest disappointment is the "angry eyes", they give the Defender a caricature face that it does not need. I think the rounded front end would be "ok" if the headlights had a different non-animated look.
  16. catmann

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    If anyone wants a NEW old Defender, there is one coming to auction very soon, although if your are in the US I don't think you can legally import it for another 20 years or so... https://www.carscoops.com/2019/09/this-brand-new-2016-defender-90-autobiography-or-the-truly-new-2020-defender/
  17. catmann

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    In case anyone cares the NA Defender Order Guide is now out, not sure if the books are actually open yet for the US or not. Per Umbertob LR Pasadena is asking 20k over MSRP to even take an order and LR Encino is asking 30k over MSRP...
  18. catmann

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Well like it or not, there is no going back now, the future is in motion in Slovakia, only time will tell if this is a success or not. When I first saw an Evoque I would surely have thought it would be a flop, so I am not even going to guess how many of these will sell. At least I have...
  19. catmann

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    Good article/reviews on the new Defender from LR insiders - also check out the archival video of the Solihull factory opening day (near the bottom of the article) with people bouncing all over the place in Land Rovers - good fun...
  20. catmann

    2020 Defender Spy Shots....

    What you are not seeing yet is that the new systems will be able to see failure symptoms in advance, use the new global satellite systems being set up in space, and pretty much have Amazon send a drone with the needed parts/tools in no time. It's not the Jestsons yet, but it's not really that...
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