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Here's the OLD truck motor's official SAE curve (6.2L L94): Add a little less than 20 horsepower and add roughly 40 lb-ft torque across the curve and you've got a good idea what the L86 looks like, same peaks. It's likely that the higher compression and direct injection could add some bulge at...

The 2014 Corvette's 6.2L LT1 is much more similar to the truck's 6.2L (L86) than they'd have you believe. There are differences, most of which are to shift the power curve lower in the rev band (shifted roughly 500 rpm lower) where it's more appropriate for a truck. In the Vette, the 6.2L makes...

The point is still the same. And 200-500 pounds (half tons) is all they're really talking about losing with J2807, evidenced by GM's adjustment for J2807 that they DID announce to the world (where Ford and Ram did not). GM and Toyota have shown their hand. Until everyone does, then it's apples...

Toyota doesn't have much to lose, or much to gain. They're stuck at 70,000 Tundras per year. Meanwhile, both Ford and GM sell over a half million half tons each (plus their heavy dutys!). Lots at stake. It's a standoff. Here's your proof that GM did, indeed, comply with J2807 in 2013...

Maybe eat your hat first. If you win you can regurgitate it and have it back. I'd think a 6x6 G-Wagen pickup with 37s and portals could do the Rubicon.

According to our resident expert, it's too long and too wide for real world trails.....it can only serve mall cruiser duty

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I hope so! GM's new Direct Inject 6.2L in the trucks makes 460 lb-ft and a very broad torque curve. Compared to Ford's current 6.2L at only 434 lb-ft and quite peaky Direct injection and higher compression would really make the Coyote and Hurricane into monsters! Should improve fuel economy too

So wide? The Raptor is 86.3" wide. Your Land Cruiser is 77.6" wide. Are you telling me that 8.7" in extra width (the width of a sheet of paper) makes a truck useless on the trail? A 2004 Tacoma is 70.3" wide....do Taco owners call your LC200 "useless on tight trails" because it's 7.3" wider...

The 6.2L Fords aren't direct injected, just regular-pressure sequential injection like most injection systems. The EcoBoost is the only Direct Inject Ford gasser. The noise in the 3V Fords at idle is failing cam phasers and VCT solenoids. My wife had a 2006 Lincoln Navigator with the 5.4L 3V...

2005 was the big chassis change for Ford Super Duty, including going to coil springs in the front, bigger brakes and bearings (and bigger wheels to clear), the 3V version of the 6.8L V10, and the 5R110 Torqshift automatic (same as the diesel). I had a 2007 Ford Crew Diesel and really liked that...

There's nothing wrong with a 6.8L V10, esp the more powerful 3V versions. The 6.2L V8 would just be the newer choice. Both are good motors. The V10s are more "known", both the good and the bad. I had good luck with mine.

You left out a bunch of choices Based on your only three choices, I'd go with the 6.2L gas Ford if you need greater than 8600 GVWR (eliminates all but three manufactures) and demand a solid front axle (eliminates all but two).

Toyota is the only manufacturer that advertises its compliance. The SAE standard was to be adopted by ALL manufacturers starting with the 2013 model year. GM announced its compliance with the 2013 model year, and announced tow ratings based on the J2807 standard. Most 1/2 ton tow ratings went...

Slap a Toyota badge on it and ask $10K

A little harder to accomplish when you have a trade and need financing.

I like Toyotas, I've owned several, I just don't bow to the alter and erect the shrine like some of you. And yes, it's clear that some Expedition Portal members are really into the name brands of their gear over the job they actually perform. I've got every right to be here, even if I don't...

But, but, but......what about all the EXPO Tacomas with IFS?? I thought they were expedition certified to traverse the deserts of Africa, the rainforests of Brazil, and the jagged rocks of the moon? Everyone says so. They can't be wrong.

Man, sorry to hear that. If you currently have a loan through TMC, paid as agreed, then there's no reason you shouldn't qualify for the best rates, particularly with your position of equity. I thought I remembered you saying the 4R was paid for, and it was only a $7K trade difference, so the...

It's why they are called "threads"