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Firstly no car is 500lb, secondly yes shape affects injury, its fact, not fiction, do some research into it. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

So your wrong about the pedestrians? Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

18" low profile tyres for bush work? I dont think anyone is going to go that low [emoji6][emoji1787] Defender come standard with 32s FYI sidewall profile is what matters not wheel size. However if you want to tow lots and stop you need big brakes. If you want to drive fast, tow and stop...

It can be removed, but not intended to be removable. I'm going to put ladder on that side, and gullwing awning on other side. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Sorry asking for stats/facts about your original claim, as in a study? For example a peer reviewed study: "we have found comparing the results of pedestrian hits with non pedestrian friendly cars to pedestrian friendly cars (ancap 5 star rated) the resulting injurys were similar or the same."...

Good point. This is the defender, i dont see why they would scimp, look how the vehicle takes the hits in testing vids and bond. You would have to agree its bigger tube than has been previously seen on a LR product, which is a promising sign. Ask yourself why its AU only? It wouldn't even be...

Sorry was asking for stats on how pedestrian friendly cars have had minimal impact of pedestrian injury or death as per your claim, and USA would not be a good start, 5star rated ANCAP cars would be the minority imo especially as far as 4x4s are concerned. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Agree but they are not 50mm tube, look at the mule pics above with the bullbar. Its more substantial than people think. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

It came across very angry, and factless, have you tried to bend 50mm tube? The heat exchangers are no more ruinously placed than a radiator, ive actually seen a photo of them. Its a fantastic design, i wouldn't buy a new 4x4 without separate coolers now after having them on my RRC Im guessing...

Someone sounds like an angry child [emoji6][emoji1787] Zero is false its 50mm tube, it will provide protection, if you hit a bull, no bullbar will save you, crumple zones and airbags do. Ugly, thats your opinion, imo its very complimentary to the vehicle also prob the only shape they could do...

Good for muddy boots, airline, food condiments etc Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Nice find! First expedition ready defender, max tracks, 2x spares, hilift, with mounts? etc. What size wheels, has recovery hooks, but not an X Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Any stats or links to back this up, not that it matters, if its true regs will change in time. Limited success, is success where lives are concerned. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

50mm tube is not thin metal, most tube bars run this, and you can land a car on it, especially if its braced like this one Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

It will be an AU bullbar, however I'm sure there will be a way to attain it, via 3rd parties as its a dealer fit item. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Nailed it. Its actually quite flat on the front but curves at the top and sides, even winch has cover to be pedestrian friendly. As you say when people understand that regs depicted some of the look, the whole car makes sense, it really must have been a tough job. I don't mind it from factory...

Sorry huh? Got a link or you theorizing? Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Great post Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

In the news thread too mate to keep this on topic, cheers for posting though Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

It looks like it can take some beating! Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk