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Now thats a camera car! Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

It was tongue in cheek [emoji1787] Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Plenty of room [emoji1417] Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Did you watch the new defender vid testing, moab rock with sand ontop, no probs, acts like lockers f/r Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Yes you do Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Thats never going to happen unless you ride a horse Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Sorry no your wrong, go check JD.power the only world recognized vehicle reliability pole, check US, check Uk, then check 20 years ago for both. Then come back and talk to me. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Define the market?, 5k defender buyers and 15k fleet p/a Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Actually they say its more capable and durable then the outgoing defender. Have you driven an F150 offroad?? Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Actually they have improved their quality by 180% over the last 20 years (until 2016) JDpower US. In the UK they now match Toyota. You obviously dont own a new JLR vehicle because their warranty and thier roadside service has a great rep in AU. Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Why are you here then? [emoji6] Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Now your posting faceless comments from articles? Are you just here to troll? Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Sorry how is this the new defender? JD. Power is the best source of vehicle info, they poll drivers of vehicles 3 years old and see how many issues after a year, LR is equiv to Toyota in the UK were they have a similar (petrol/diesel) but no where near exhaustive range of 4x4s. Sent from my...

Actually its not the same at all, its vastly different, it now has brake by wire which activates the brakes/TC much much quicker, actually half the time compared to a hydraulic system. And incorporates additional functions like a wade program...

I believe the new def drove most of the hard trails in moab Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Agree old def only sold 5k, to public, 15k to fleet on average last few years, hardly a success Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Wait until next year, there will be new defenders with all sorts of mods at all the shows Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Tones of D5s are already contracted by law enforcement across europe, what does that say about the new defenders chsnces being significantly more utilitarian and even moreso after the com version drops Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

Doesnt need one, simply put, rear, centre locker and TR2 will get you just about anywhere on earth imo Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk

I would say based on Moab testing vids, TR2 looks to have solved that if it was true. http://vimeopro.com/user98861477/defender-7-en From 2mins, traction looks insane, im guessing has rear locker Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk