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  1. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    Of course but buy the time you buy a new one and do a few changes you can't.
  2. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    The Initial cost is often not the deciding factor when it comes to the cost of ownership.
  3. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    I haven't bought a new car since my Jeep in 2001, it was just over 20k. Now they are 40k plus.
  4. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    They are figuring costs that all cars have, new and old, except the fix, new cars have warranty. I am not saying new cars don't cost more than a paid off car but you still have many of these expenses regardless. Owning a vehicle (new or old) costs money. The interesting part is when adjusted...
  5. MOguy

    TIRES vs MPG

    My gain in extended range is equivalent to carry around an additional four gallons of fuel. I am in a TJ and space is at a minimum. I do care around a 5-gallon jug I don't want to carry around two of those. I was concerned about mud packing in the ATs also, but I was pleasantly surprised to see...
  6. MOguy

    TIRES vs MPG

    I think many here are wanting more range. Even ATs get good traction now days. A nicer, quitter ride aint bad either. When I wheeled at off-road parks mileage wasn't an issue but not that I roaming though the woods range greater range is advantageous. I don't need real aggressive tires...
  7. MOguy

    TIRES vs MPG

    I also have had TrXus MTs* (33X12.5) and Goodyear MTRs (33X12.5s and 35X12.5). They all averaged around 12 mpgs. The ATs have averaged around 15. When I lived in SoCAL I did allot of freeway commuting and at about 65mph the 35s did get better that the aggressive 33s. I don't do any freeway...
  8. MOguy

    TIRES vs MPG

    Tread designs plays a big role in mileage. My wider ATS get about 3 mpg more the my skinners Super Swampers. With the narrower tires my Jeep stayed cleaner.
  9. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    how long do you keep these vehicles? You can pay cash for a lease.
  10. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    This used to be how I did it but my last few "newer cars" cost be FAR FAR more in repairs then the few grand I saved on the price. I want a newer family/wife car and I expect it to be trouble free. My most recent gently used few year old low mileage GMC Acadia Denali, my gently used few year...
  11. MOguy

    Entrenching Tool

    For many many years I carried a little folding shovel (E tool) while in the Army. I had a few versions ( issued to me and ones I bought) and the one thing they all had in common was they suck. Now I am out of the Army and will never have to deal with one of those worthless POS folding shovels...
  12. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    And if you are only interested in keeping the vehicle for a short period of time.
  13. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    At the end of the lease you can trade in in just like if you where buying. For about 800 bucks (somewhat negotiable) I bought an insurance for usual wear and tear including brakes and tires. If I trade it that 800 dollars is wasted money. Miles can cost you but will be less painful if you...
  14. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    I used to think that way but not anymore. I make a good living and a few hundred dollars a month is not that much compared to have your peace of mind. I trust my Jeep but I don't want my wife driving to that much. We had a nice wonderful 4Runner stranded 165000 miles, and a nice wonderful of...
  15. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    The state won't give you a refund. You pay tax on the negotiated price of the vehicle, trades in and down payment can reduce the loan amount put not the purchase price. Not sure if any alliances are made on trade ins.
  16. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    What is the 2000 due at signing for? That locks like a purchase in the low 20s, so your lease maybe 6 grand if the residual is that high. With 2000 grand down your lease should be about 4k. Of course if you fall for that lease you are getting ripped of ok
  17. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    yes the vehicle does matter but you don't pick it based on its capabilities and limitations you pick the vehicle based on the residual value. when you buy a vehicle, you plan on keeping, you picked up vehicle based on its capability and limitations in accordance with your needs,you don't...
  18. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    The variable with leasing is residual value. It's hard to compare Vehicles based on what the vehicle is itself you have to compare residual values. When it comes to the money side of leasing, the vehicle itself is really irrelevant, it is the residual value that you have to concern yourself with.
  19. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    As far as money, I will not hesitate to trade money for my family's safety and well-being. What is more valuable money or peace of mind?
  20. MOguy

    A Discussion of Differing Points of View: Is Jeep Leasing an Intelligent Choice or a Dumb One ??

    If you can't understand how wrong that is you can NEVER understand why leasing could be a benefit. My 2019 Camry is over 30K to buy. I would have to pay tax and interest on that entire loan if I buy it. I will pay about 16K for the lease and only pay finance charge and tax on 16k if leasing...
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