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    Post pictures of your Land Rover.

    My 98 D1 a few summers ago ...........
  2. M

    INEOS Grenadier

    Except I never commented on the "Cybertruck" from Tesla. Get some sleep ..........
  3. M

    INEOS Grenadier

    LOL. I'm a Systems Engineer/EE/Project Management. Clearly we know nothing!
  4. M

    Jaguar Land Rover buys performance 4x4 firm Bowler

    Maybe SVO can use some energy? Seems like that group has been neutered since the $4B loss and on-going accounting management.
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    New Defender News

    The new Luxury Defender will move upmarket while it appears Land Rover's entry level will be Tata Harrier based and possibly built in India. Land Rover to use Tata Harrier platform – For new affordable SUV launch Land Rover has started work on their most affordable SUV till date, which will...
  6. M

    New Defender News

    You seem to create from thin air for the sake of arguing. I'll pass.
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    Jaguar Land Rover buys performance 4x4 firm Bowler

    Bowler was in receivership and nearing liquidation.
  8. M

    New Defender News

    Uh Oh ........... Cyrus Mistry was proven right on at least four of his warnings to the Tata Sons Board even before the latest court ruling Mistry is a low debt proponent.
  9. M

    New Defender News

    JLR rescues Bowler who was in receivership and about to shut down.
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    New Defender News

    Appears the road is going to get much rougher for JLR and Tata. Tata senior management in disarray. Tata Loses Court Case in India’s Biggest Corporate Feud Bloomberg (Bloomberg) -- Tata Sons Ltd. suffered a shock defeat as an Indian court ordered it to reinstate the chairman it fired in 2016...
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    INEOS Grenadier

    Reality Check for some. The Defender was EOL'd in roughly 2013/4 with production ending 2016. Jim Ratcliffe knew of that impending market exit early on and began exploring the viability of offering a product around that timeframe. Land Rover was already saying the next gen Defender was going...
  12. M

    INEOS Grenadier

    Would think initial production would be with Magna Steyr or under their management in Britain. As I understand it major component manufacturing would be in Portugal with final assembly in Britain. Overall design, development, prototyping and testing is further along than in press releases. Very...
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    INEOS Grenadier

    Magna Steyr is a contract manufacturer for production. Steyr-Daimler-Puch grew into an industrial empire that designed and manufactured a dizzying variety of products including weapons, bicycles, mopeds, trucks, tractors, buses, automotive components and, of course, cars. It divested most of...
  14. M

    INEOS Grenadier

    2021 Ford Bronco discussions on Ineos Granedier. For test mule pic scroll down.
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    INEOS Grenadier

    Vehicle designs are closely held secrets, running around disguised as other models. You won't see photos till near the release dates. Same as the LR Luxury Defender. Many designs are 'inspired' by others. Just look at the early days of the D5 and the Ford Explorer similarities.
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    INEOS Grenadier

    The prototype/mule was built a year ago? Ineos Grenadier: the prototype due in 2018 under the new engineering process February 14, 2018 German engineering firm MBtech, which is part-owned by Mercedes-Benz, has signed an agreement with Ineos of the Automobile to the engineer of his...
  17. M

    INEOS Grenadier

    Ineos Automotive Ltd. has been around since 2017. The target release of the Grenadier is 2021 so 4 year development cycle. Typically it is 5. Given the partners it seems realistic to achieve a production level of 25,000 at 6 years. Target sales price puts them at 10-20% less than a base Luxury...
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    INEOS Grenadier

    INEOS partners with Magna Steyr on Grenadier "....With £600 million committed to the venture so far, this is far from a pet project for Ratcliffe, the billionaire expecting to see a healthy return on his investment. Hitting the target of selling as many as 25,000 cars a year by 2023 would...
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    INEOS Grenadier

    ".......The sales model will vary by market, but in the UK buyers could well find themselves heading to farm machinery suppliers, or even to the factory itself, to take a look at the car. ......" AKA International Scout dealer network that placed the vehicle within the community that actually...
  20. M

    New Defender Rage/Hate Thread

    I'm not saying bandaids or restomods. I'm saying actual investment in engineering, materials, suppliers and production. The 35+ years that LR ignored. Appears the Ineos Granadier will be the new Defender.
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