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I agree with that, I just hear folks adding the GAWR front + rear and using it instead of GVWR....to you comment, all (3) need to be considered

Cool truck - it's beautiful! Are you going to put some more substantial fender flares on? With the 0 offset wheels + 12.5" tires you may wanna consider a bit more coverage so you don't scratch up that pretty truck!

You can't add GAWR together to get any number that makes sense....GA is only to limit over loading an axle.

I had a buddy in sim. situation, he had a nice early low mile 2000's Chevy 3500, single rear wheel, duramax, airbags with a big slide in camper + would occasionally tow a big boat with that setup...I asked him about his Payload/GAWR, he didn't know, but he was def. over. He had nothing but...

I see this argument a lot, US vs ROW....but based on the numbers, the ROW rigs are being pushed deep into what is reasonable and factor of safety. When I see a Colorado with a light duty D44 and a 7.x" front diff + lighter duty drivetrain being rated for what some of the heavier optioned 3/4...

Well it still has 1212 of payload....it may handle a bit better with stiffer suspension and a stiffer frame, but that doesn't change the size of the brakes, output shafts, axles housings, etc.

They are completely different numbers (GA vs GV)....if you payload is 1500 lbs, the truck is not designed to carry 1500 lbs over the front axle even though you would be within payload figures, hence your front GAWR # limiting that....same goes for back, they are not meant to be added together...

How does the platform compare to the LC? F&R diff sizes? Awesome looking rig!!

Don't bring SD into this unless you wanna talk payload?

Chick cars? It's the same or very sim platform as a F150, isn't it? I'd drive one in a heart beat... It's twice the truck as one of those little 1/4 T Rangers.....ever seen one of those up close?

Join the crowd, lol

Just read through the landing page article about the Redtail Skyloft on the Expo.....cool rig! I know you can get them with the HD rear axles that come on the F150 HDPP.....underrated, IMO and looks great with what looks to be 35's...

I know you are pulling numbers out of the manual which seem "official" - but you need to be careful with how you are interpreting. Max load is based on door sticker...you can't just ignore that. Also you need to be wary of rear axle GAWR, you are likely going to hit that before you max out...

Maybe we are talking past each other..... The hitch / receiver attached to vehicle doesn't eat into Payload, but the WD hitch will. Towing capacity is rarely a limiting factor on any vehicle, it's generally payload, per all the math we've been chatting about above. I'd agree with @calicamper...

Don't be conservative, use "base" weight of 2900 lbs then.... Hitch setup = 60-70 lbs (mine is probably more than that) 2900 * 15% = 435 lbs (they trend a bit higher from what I have seen) Total = ~500 lbs You are already maxed out on TW which I do believe is 500 lbs on a 4runner?

Go weigh your rig, I bet it weighs more than you think.....but regardless, payload #'s as provided by Toyota are official....your math doesn't count. I don't even know if the numbers in the manual count - they may be the same as shown online which are generic spec rigs, the door sticker is the...

WD hitch - absolutely, especially on a rig like a 4runner....it has more to do with the truck than the trailer. I don't follow your math - what is the weight of you vehicle, actual weight, not online calculated weight? You'll need that to do the math you are doing. The manuf. put those...

Look at your door sticker for Payload, you don't get to calculate it - from what I've seen most 5th gen 4runners are ~900 - 1200, what does yours say, lets clear that up. The Airstreams are TW heavy, throw out 10%, they are closer to 15%. So do the math +1200 -500 TW -200 adult -200 adult -200...

Cute story but it's unfortunately a myth, hopefully you don't use that one too much: https://www.animal-dynamics.com/the-bumblebee-flight-myth/ The advice you give isn't good. A 4runner will 100% "pull it", just like a Miata would, but it's not the best tool for the job as many have stated...

Define "handle" load....will it explode into a ball of flames if you overload it, no, but if we are talking about facts.....manuf. payload ratings, trailer tongue weights and general loadout of vehicles can all be reasonably defined quantitatively. When you do that the 4runner payload capacity...