yeah....probably the last thing I am going to do is going to is put a heavier rate spring on the front. The front spring rate is already WAY too stiff in my option. It needs more coil spring length, less spring rate, and MUCH more shock. An off the shelf 2.0, or less ,shock just isn't going to...
I'd like to be able to use all the payload when required, but not suffer the ride to do it most of the time. This truck will be a truck.....tow, haul, camp, whatever.
Ryan is recommending Fox 2.5 shocks with a DSC adjuster. I generally agree with that, I just wonder what I could be leaving on...
I just got done building a custom FJ45-esk pickup on an 80 series chassis.....
It works amazingly well ( but it isn't a F350 truck either). The suspension is basically still stock 80 series. The only real change was that I eliminated the front sway-bar ( isn't needed honestly ) and changed...
We did a lot of the chevy 63-64" springs back in the day, especially on toyotas. I honestly wasn't that impressed. They could have a lot of travel, but they also had a lot of axle wrap issues. They also didn't seem to hold up great with only a few leaves and minimal spring clamps. There was a...
I don't really buy into the 'more' is better school of thought on suspension. Personally, I would rather predictably lift a tire every so often, then deal with all the extra sway/roll that typically comes with large amounts of sloppy wheel travel. For me, it seems if the suspension can cycle a...
A bell-crank or cantilever setup could be interesting. With the air shock concept, it would pretty much need to be a reverse ratio to increase the load capacity, and then that makes packaging really. I do think using something like a 2:1 motion ratio on a conventional bellows bag. That would...
That sounds really expensive! I think an ORI strut is about 800-900 each. I know they promote they are a wonder package. I just don't buy into it really. The dual sided air chamber kinda violates most of what I think works well for spring rate.
Why not? It is basically just an air spring. I would only use it as a secondary spring to help with loads. It wouldn't even need valving inside really. Fox and King both make a 2.5" version that will support 1200lbs per unit. They have 12" travel units which would be about right for the rear...
Yup, Fox and King both make a 2.5" 'air' shock that uses nitrogen pressure ( and is kinda a bad emulsion shock ). I am just thinking that it could work as a secondary spring for load capacity. They have a weight capacity limit of 1200lbs in the 2.5" per unit. That would be 2400lbs of additional...
That is a good point about the air bags long term durability in the desert. I have heard that from a few places now.
I think some bags are more durable than others. With the high capacity of most bags, I wonder if a cantilever or motion ratio to slow down the bag?
The other idea I have been...
I think the increased spring rate step up from the Sumo or Timbren setup would be noticeable if they where set to contact soon enough to properly deal with a large increase in extra load.
Attaching or changing something is an option, but its only fun till have you have to do it after driving...
That helps steer the conversation....
I would go look at the mid-size double cab trucks with the entire family and see how it goes. My guess, especially with the kids growing, that 5 people in a non-full size truck cab will be tight, especially for long trips. I would however look at the new...
It depends on how many people, how much stuff you want to take, and where you want to take it. You still have too many variables listed in my option. It is basically unicorn hunting at this point. I would try and define a more clear set of goals. Listing the top 3 big trips you want to do can...
Cradles, I'm not sure. I'm not sold on the 'sometimes' engaged drop out air bag mounts. I think there is just too much risk of wear between the parts doing that cycle over and over again.
The bag I posted a link to above will cycle a full 13" of stroke, which would handle anything I would do...
Personally, I think a lot of people just throw GVWR and payload out the window when doing this stuff.
I would much rather have a lighter full size truck vs an overloaded smaller vehicle ( especially when off road for an extended amount of time )
Long term the vehicle will be happier, I think...
For 05-07 Ford F250/350 trucks this looks like a very neat tech tip to allow using the much longer 08+ rear springs.
http://www.cjcoffroad.com/v/vspfiles/instructions/Ford%20Super%20Duty/Ford%20Components/Instructions%20-%20CS-FFSP-LVL-08%20-%2005-07%20Conversion.pdf
Basically relocate the...
From what I can find all the stock ford springs where the same, they just changed the overload position and block height for the different trucks.....250/350 across the board gas and diesel.
I am just thinking about the bags being a helper. The stock springs are terrible for me however. Very...
I don't think I am going to add a bunch of travel. I'm not really interested in big front hoops or a bed cage. The rear stock suspension is packaging a 11.5-12" travel shock surprisingly. I don't think I need more than that really. I am definitely in the camp of more quality of travel vs...
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