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  1. Ozark_Prowler

    2004 Tacoma vs. 1997 Land Cruiser: Long Term Ownership

    It pulls to the right on the road-I think due to worn bushings. I’m worried excessive flex on the suspension might cause them to fail altogether. It just has a lot of neglected maintenance in general.
  2. Ozark_Prowler

    2004 Tacoma vs. 1997 Land Cruiser: Long Term Ownership

    I mostly agree with you, but the rack and pinion is a weak point for the Tacos. And the solid axles with coil springs will give better flex than the leaf springs and are more durable and serviceable in the field: it's not all about raw off road ability.
  3. Ozark_Prowler

    2004 Tacoma vs. 1997 Land Cruiser: Long Term Ownership

    I'm still on the fence since I think it's kind of a shame I never got to test the LC off road (don't feel comfortable with the worn bushings). Also, I was thinking earlier that they'd shoot way up in value like the 60 series so this was my last chance to own one with the solid axle, but now it...
  4. Ozark_Prowler

    2004 Tacoma vs. 1997 Land Cruiser: Long Term Ownership

    Yeah but it is lifted and regeared, and just excellent condition inside and out. The first gens have been dropping like flies, especially in the northern states, due in part to the crappy steel they used in the frames. The locker would be a plus, but I kinda prefer the 3rz anyway. The V6 is...
  5. Ozark_Prowler

    2004 Tacoma vs. 1997 Land Cruiser: Long Term Ownership

    Well the guy wants 11.5k for it. Ideally I’d get that for the Cruiser, but like I said it needs a little TLC. It is a southern truck at least though so rust isn’t a big concern
  6. Ozark_Prowler

    2004 Tacoma vs. 1997 Land Cruiser: Long Term Ownership

    Well I’d need at least 10k out of it if I were going to sell now. I figure I might wait until the spring and fix it up a bit over the winter; she’s a solid runner but a little rough around the edges.
  7. Ozark_Prowler

    2004 Tacoma vs. 1997 Land Cruiser: Long Term Ownership

    Yeah I'm definitely looking for more of a light-duty daily I can still have fun with on the weekends. I can appreciate the durability of the 80 series but it's a bit agricultural.
  8. Ozark_Prowler

    2004 Tacoma vs. 1997 Land Cruiser: Long Term Ownership

    It is regeared for 33s but not a TRD. I forgot to ask if they put in a locker while regearing.
  9. Ozark_Prowler

    2004 Tacoma vs. 1997 Land Cruiser: Long Term Ownership

    There's no doubting the 80 is more solidly built. But it seems like the tank-like feeling could be a downside off road. Especially on right trails with lots of mud and water crossings, where it might get bogged down or high centered easier due to its bulk. Also the Taco is in better shape and...
  10. Ozark_Prowler

    Is the FZJ80 worth it in today’s market?

    That’s not always the case. I know at least one guy over on Mud who’s $100k into his 80, including restoration and mods.
  11. Ozark_Prowler

    2004 Tacoma vs. 1997 Land Cruiser: Long Term Ownership

    I've been discussing trading my '97 80 series for a cherry-looking 2004 Tacoma Xtracab 4x4 5 speed with the 3rz. It had the frame replaced at some point. 250k miles, but mostly highway according to the seller. I got the Land Cruiser recently and I was exciting given how legendary those things...
  12. Ozark_Prowler

    Is the FZJ80 worth it in today’s market?

    You can use 100 series pads on the front which help a bit, but yeah, the brakes are definitely a weak point. Thats's true for pretty much all the old solid axle Cruisers. I don't know why Toyota struggled so much with their braking systems back in the day. I wonder what about the inline 6 makes...
  13. Ozark_Prowler

    Is the FZJ80 worth it in today’s market?

    Does his have a 2LT motor? I think those are known to be troublesome engines.
  14. Ozark_Prowler

    Is the FZJ80 worth it in today’s market?

    Ok, well I may have different standards, since the newest vehicle I've owned was a 2002 WRX. I find the ride of the 80 series to be remarkably smooth compared to my previous DDs. I agree it can be loud and the brakes are subpar though. The interior is certainly rudimentary by today's standards...
  15. Ozark_Prowler

    Is the FZJ80 worth it in today’s market?

    If it’s running hot all the time your cooling system is (or was) likely in less than optimal shape. Usually a fan clutch service and new radiator does the trick. Also, I’m curious what you think is so unlivable about it? It’s not like it’s a 1950s Jeep or something
  16. Ozark_Prowler

    Is the FZJ80 worth it in today’s market?

    Well even if the Bronco flexes better with its IFS, shocks and springs are a relatively inexpensive upgrade for the 80. Those are just wear items anyway. I’m not saying you’re wrong on the Bronco outperforming the 80 off road stock for stock; in fact that seems like a great idea for a video...
  17. Ozark_Prowler

    Is the FZJ80 worth it in today’s market?

    Yea I’m sure everyone will be so much safer driving around 2.5 ton land yachts. This makes me wanna sell my Cruiser and look for a nice single cab Hardbody or OG Tacoma. They really won’t make something like that again.
  18. Ozark_Prowler

    Is the FZJ80 worth it in today’s market?

    Why do you say the suspension on the 80 isn’t good? I thought it along with the early Discos we’re considered some of the best stock set ups you could get? Upgrade radius arms and it’ll be even better. I’d like to see a twin-clocked 80 go up against a similarly equipped Bronco, both on 33s...
  19. Ozark_Prowler

    Is the FZJ80 worth it in today’s market?

    I never said the 80 series was light as a feather with solid axles and a thick and fully boxed frame. I also never said it was an infallible chariot of God. I just wish someone would make a basic, light 4x4 these days like the old minitrucks from Toyota, Ford, and others. For some reason every...
  20. Ozark_Prowler

    Is the FZJ80 worth it in today’s market?

    My qualms with it would be the poor visibility as mentioned earlier, and also the over-reliance on computerized systems for off roading etc. Te turbo engines are nice for power, but they're not as under-stressed as an old NA 6 or 8 cylinder mill. Certainly not as tolerant of neglected...
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