12v Air conditioning vs mini Split

[Ferjablito]

I did bought this portable split Aircon:

Eine portable Split-Klimananlage für Wohnwagen / Wohnmobil / Vanlife

Sparsame mobile SPLIT Klimaanlage für Camping, Wohnmobil, Wohnwagen und Reisefahrzeuge. Solarbetrieb möglich.

www.4x4tripping.com

I did review it too. It is runned by 110v/220v but just need 450Watt, it runs even on my Ecoflow River Pro.

Completely OK to cool down my 16m2 Homeoffice Room!

trippin

I am trying to see the technical sheet to see if there is a possibility through a refrigeration technician to lengthen the hose to fix the external refrigeration unit under the side members of the subframe and the internal unit.

 

[SkiFreak]

I saw a picture of one of these with the outside unit installed between the chassis rails. Sorry... I cannot find that image now.
I am no fridge mech, but I would think that the evaporator could be in any orientation. The compressor may have to be relocated and kept vertical, but I don't know if this is mandatory or not.
Sadly, I have filled all of the available space between my chassis rails, or I would have probably tried to install one of these units there.

(Edit: I am talking about one of the Mitsubishi Heavy Industries domestic split systems)

 

[GR8ADV]

Tried swamp coolers and AC . Even tho the Fuso is relatively big, it is still such a small volume that opening the door to go outside pretty much kills my internal cooling dreams. Not a fan of hanging out inside all the time in warm weather. Use fans at night to move air. Not a problem with heat as when it is really cold I’m typically not out and about as much. Heat seems to linger, and a diesel heat is almost free to use.

And of course huge amp draws of AC eat unmercifully at my 400 ah storage. Just can’t justify it. I’ll keep checking back for tech to provide a good unit with a 5 amp draw. C’mon Elon!

 

[Ferjablito]

I saw a picture of one of these with the outside unit installed between the chassis rails. Sorry... I cannot find that image now.
I am no fridge mech, but I would think that the evaporator could be in any orientation. The compressor may have to be relocated and kept vertical, but I don't know if this is mandatory or not.
Sadly, I have filled all of the available space between my chassis rails, or I would have probably tried to install one of these units there.

(Edit: I am talking about one of the Mitsubishi Heavy Industries domestic split systems)

I spoke to a refrigeration technician and he tells me that the unit is prepared to work vertically, if I place it horizontally the condenser oil does not do its job, I asked him to open and change the condenser location but he tells me that it is not viable and it is encapsulated
You can put it by proxy but unfortunately it would not last long, he tells me.

 

[Ferjablito]

Any partner who uses this humidifier to provide impressions.

Refrigerador de aire Holiday 3S de 12 voltios Viesa RG-1Q21018

El refrigerador Viesa es un sistema de gama alta desarrollado para enfriar el habitáculo de la autocaravana utilizando el principio de evaporación del agua y crea de forma natural sensación de bienestar y confort cuando hace calor.

www.just4camper.es

 

[11overlandram]

I did bought this portable split Aircon:

Eine portable Split-Klimananlage für Wohnwagen / Wohnmobil / Vanlife

Sparsame mobile SPLIT Klimaanlage für Camping, Wohnmobil, Wohnwagen und Reisefahrzeuge. Solarbetrieb möglich.

www.4x4tripping.com

I did review it too. It is runned by 110v/220v but just need 450Watt, it runs even on my Ecoflow River Pro.

Completely OK to cool down my 16m2 Homeoffice Room!

trippin

Does this unit work well while driving?

 

[Ferjablito]

the problem is that it is an indoor unit and an outdoor unit and designed to be placed in windows...complicated while driving
I was looking at this option but I can't find if it installs plastic or copper hoses, if they are made of copper they can be cut and soldered.

 

[ReluctantTraveler]

I have a "Cruise n' comfort" 12v in my npr build. It's great but pricey. I'm using 5-600 watts on full, but does a pretty solid job of keeping me cool. My only wish was it was a heat pump so I had heat from it too, as a back up.

12/24/48 Volt DC Air Conditioners..Battery Powered..Solar Powered..Hand Made In Arizona Since 2010

We manufacture DC battery powered air conditioners in various voltages for various applications..... Off grid living, Heavy Equipment, Boats, Telecommunications, Lithium battery climate control, Test equipment, Battery and solar powered, energy efficient...... Made in Arizona.... Custom application

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Hi friend, would you be able to share which model you purchased, and the internal square footage of your rig? I'd happily pay a little more for these since they can be ducted. My other top contender is the Mabru 12v rooftop AC, but not having a roof unit would be great.

ROOFTOP 12V AIR CONDITIONER 12000 BTU FOR VEHICLES: CAMPERVANS, RV, PR

Click here for the Mabru RV Installation Manual Not Recommended for Self Installation* Maximum Cooling Capacity:12000BTUCondenser fan air volume: 2200m3/hEvaporator blower air volume: 600m3/hRefrigerant / Weight: HFC-134a/650gRefrigerant Oil: RH68Unit Size: 970x858x150mmMin Hole size...

mabrustore.com

 

[carterd]

Midea makes an 8,000 BTU window AC with inverter technology for $400 that is almost a mini-split, but not quite. It is a U-shaped unit that has separate motors for the condenser and evaporator fans, so the only things connecting the front and back half of the units are electric wires and the refrigerant lines. This could in theory be divorced into inside and outside units for a fraction of the cost of a larger mini-split. This video has a good look at the internals:

 

[elvan]

Hi friend, would you be able to share which model you purchased, and the internal square footage of your rig? I'd happily pay a little more for these since they can be ducted. My other top contender is the Mabru 12v rooftop AC, but not having a roof unit would be great.

ROOFTOP 12V AIR CONDITIONER 12000 BTU FOR VEHICLES: CAMPERVANS, RV, PR

Click here for the Mabru RV Installation Manual Not Recommended for Self Installation* Maximum Cooling Capacity:12000BTUCondenser fan air volume: 2200m3/hEvaporator blower air volume: 600m3/hRefrigerant / Weight: HFC-134a/650gRefrigerant Oil: RH68Unit Size: 970x858x150mmMin Hole size...

mabrustore.com

I had the HD to start, but it wasn't enough. I ended up with the VES Maxx, but I'd say it's probably overkill. I'm at probably 150sqft in a composite box. Not having anything on your roof except solar panels to power the ac is worth it.

 

[andy_b]

Not sure if the OP is still looking but I have been using this minisplit for the past 6 months or so and it has worked pretty well: https://www.fleetwelcome.com/product/solar-air-conditioner/. We have not used the heating function but I can confirm it works.

I bought it on Amazon but they appear to be sold out at the moment. The documentation is terrible but the install was pretty easy. The vendor has been easy to talk with directly. Based on what I have seen, it appears to be the same unit AT is selling on their Aterra XL campers.

I'm using it in the Southwest and it works well. At start up it draws around 650W and then settles around 350-400W to maintain temps in the mid-70s. I have 800W of solar and 600Ah of battery storage. On a sunny day, the minisplit can run with zero impact on the battery. On a mild but partly cloudy day, the solar is able to recharge the batteries while the minisplit cycles, with essentially no impact on the batteries.

Inside, the system is quiet (about as loud as a Maxair fan on high) when the compressor is cycling. When the compressor is off and the air handler is just blowing air, it is equivalent to a Maxair fan on its lowest setting. Outdoors, the compressor is very loud - louder than any similar residential minisplit I have heard. It is a white noise, but loud. I would hate me if I were running it in any sort of campground milieu.

Apart from the outdoor noise, my only other complaint is that the airhandler's fan speed on high is pretty weak. It takes a while to cool the forward-most portion of the cabover. Since the impact on the batteries is negligible, we address this by running the minisplit continuously to maintain a comfortable temp.

 

[Ferjablito]

Midea makes an 8,000 BTU window AC with inverter technology for $400 that is almost a mini-split, but not quite. It is a U-shaped unit that has separate motors for the condenser and evaporator fans, so the only things connecting the front and back half of the units are electric wires and the refrigerant lines. This could in theory be divorced into inside and outside units for a fraction of the cost of a larger mini-split. This video has a good look at the internals:

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I have been able to read a cooling consumption of 710W

 

[Ferjablito]

Hi friend, would you be able to share which model you purchased, and the internal square footage of your rig? I'd happily pay a little more for these since they can be ducted. My other top contender is the Mabru 12v rooftop AC, but not having a roof unit would be great.

ROOFTOP 12V AIR CONDITIONER 12000 BTU FOR VEHICLES: CAMPERVANS, RV, PR

Click here for the Mabru RV Installation Manual Not Recommended for Self Installation* Maximum Cooling Capacity:12000BTUCondenser fan air volume: 2200m3/hEvaporator blower air volume: 600m3/hRefrigerant / Weight: HFC-134a/650gRefrigerant Oil: RH68Unit Size: 970x858x150mmMin Hole size...

mabrustore.com

How is it working for you cruise comfort?
can you say what it cost you?