1971 Series Land Rover??
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Alaska Mike
ExPo Moderator/Eye Candy
I wouldn't say zero value. I got my purchase price back when I sold my engine/transmission/transfercase (non-running/non-complete). However, if the rust is bad it's a money pit (like mine) that you will never get any kind of return on your investment if you sold it. Right now I'd view it as a functional drivetrain with a VIN.
We're talking about a rig that's 40+ years old. Parts wear out (think drivetrain and other moving parts). Others rust away or dry rot. Some fuse together to make completely different configurations. Unless this vehicle has had a major restoration sometime in its life (and judging by the pictures, it hasn't), what you don't see is going to be what costs the most. This rig obviously wasn't always barn-kept, and likely spent a good bit of time out in the elements. As much as I hate to say it, it would likely be better to part that one out to keep others on the road.
Either that, or decide if you want to nurse it along in its current condition or commit to a major overhaul. Once you start polishing one part, you're going to have to do them all.
We're talking about a rig that's 40+ years old. Parts wear out (think drivetrain and other moving parts). Others rust away or dry rot. Some fuse together to make completely different configurations. Unless this vehicle has had a major restoration sometime in its life (and judging by the pictures, it hasn't), what you don't see is going to be what costs the most. This rig obviously wasn't always barn-kept, and likely spent a good bit of time out in the elements. As much as I hate to say it, it would likely be better to part that one out to keep others on the road.
Either that, or decide if you want to nurse it along in its current condition or commit to a major overhaul. Once you start polishing one part, you're going to have to do them all.
proper4wd
Expedition Leader
I'm not sure that some of you have a very good handle on the actual value of a straight series truck like this. It is not a basketcase. The frame looks very good. Yes I know there is no way to tell till you poke at it but my initial reaction after 10 years of experience looking at Series frames is that it is at least very salvageable. It needs to have the bulkhead removed and restored but that hardly makes it worthless.
Go out and do some research trying to actually find one for sale for under $5000 in ANY condition. You will find some, but most all will be falling apart and rotting into the ground. This one is not. Yeah I know you can find them for $300 sitting in farmyards sometimes but that is not an accurate representation of market value.
The number of original, straight, unmolested Series Land Rovers is dwindling in this country. The small remaining number of original NAS trucks is getting watered down by the number of basketcase RHD imports coming in as well, making finding something like this a real gem. It should be saved and brought back whatever you do don't scrap it or part it out!
Go out and do some research trying to actually find one for sale for under $5000 in ANY condition. You will find some, but most all will be falling apart and rotting into the ground. This one is not. Yeah I know you can find them for $300 sitting in farmyards sometimes but that is not an accurate representation of market value.
The number of original, straight, unmolested Series Land Rovers is dwindling in this country. The small remaining number of original NAS trucks is getting watered down by the number of basketcase RHD imports coming in as well, making finding something like this a real gem. It should be saved and brought back whatever you do don't scrap it or part it out!
LR Max
Local Oaf
Not worth $2500. The bulkhead and breakfast are in bad shape. I'm willing to bet a bacon porkchop sammich that the frame is also shot. For a first time series owner, pay the extra $$$ up front for a truck that has already had its frame swapped. This truck requires a TON of love, care, and money. If you are like me and don't have the time nor the place to tackle something like this, walk.
Since the bulkhead, breakfast and frame appear to be shot, price just dropped below $1k. Good candidate for a frame up, though. Add a coiler-series chassis and defender bulkhead. Make room for a V8 and it'll be a mighty fine ride.
Since the bulkhead, breakfast and frame appear to be shot, price just dropped below $1k. Good candidate for a frame up, though. Add a coiler-series chassis and defender bulkhead. Make room for a V8 and it'll be a mighty fine ride.
95RRC
Adventurer
Bulkhead and breakfast are all solid. Frame is solid too...just went by with my mechanic, we went over and under it. SOLD...I am now the owner of another headache! Like my mechanic said...strip the panels to bare metal, treat the rust, repaint and for a pretty cheap outlay you have a great lil truck - could even flip it and make some money. Gotta add four brakes, booster & MBC, some axle seals and other stuff. Maybe also the fairey o/d, but that would be something else - another time.
Thanks for all the feedback
Thanks for all the feedback
Skookumchuck
Observer
Good luck with your project. you will have to let us all know how it goes.
Congrats! Put as little money into it as possible and just drive and enjoy it!
junkyddog11
Oil Soaked Filter
People in the states are crazy. You'll have prolly 10k in it by the time your done but it will be more fun than a tatooed smile.
For once Adam is right......not sure why he is in Denver though. Must be skirt related.
For once Adam is right......not sure why he is in Denver though. Must be skirt related.
killahaas@gmail.com
Adventurer
congrats! start a build thread!!!
proper4wd
Expedition Leader
Great skirts out here, you should come take a look. I was close to moving to the Warren Maine area for an "opportunity" there but the skirts there aren't up to par.
junkyddog11
Oil Soaked Filter
HAHA. Denver....not likely. I'll be in Wyoming for a national enduro (not me, but just for the idea) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPDpiXteCGM&feature=youtu.be but thas about it for out west this year.
Your so right in your assesment of this guys IIA. What I'd give for straight body panels. I'm tired of shrinking bent Birmabright. I've got 27 88" body tubs and only 2 that are not mangled in some spot. Not to mention the stack of 50 or so front wings that are bent to an alarming degree. People in Maine seem to have perfected their mad Braille driving skills with series rigs for sure.
Speaking of Braille driving.....I had to retire the Slut, but that should be the start of a new thread I'd suppose.
So I'd guess the point of this ramble is that to some crazy Americans the though of having a nice straight Series rig to start with is worth something. Personally it's worth a lot of time IMO. To some ....time is money. I think 95RRC has done well and I look forward to seeing the results.
Your so right in your assesment of this guys IIA. What I'd give for straight body panels. I'm tired of shrinking bent Birmabright. I've got 27 88" body tubs and only 2 that are not mangled in some spot. Not to mention the stack of 50 or so front wings that are bent to an alarming degree. People in Maine seem to have perfected their mad Braille driving skills with series rigs for sure.
Speaking of Braille driving.....I had to retire the Slut, but that should be the start of a new thread I'd suppose.
So I'd guess the point of this ramble is that to some crazy Americans the though of having a nice straight Series rig to start with is worth something. Personally it's worth a lot of time IMO. To some ....time is money. I think 95RRC has done well and I look forward to seeing the results.
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Alaska Mike
ExPo Moderator/Eye Candy
Ahhh, now I'm seeing the point of those that were all for saving this rig. Straight body panels are less important to me than the structural integrity of the vehicle (frame/bulkhead), since I can usually come up with serviceable body parts without excessive searching. I know as soon as I take a rig off road out here, I will likely crease a panel or otherwise make it less than showroom quality. I tend to think of it as "advanced patina". My rigs will never be on a LL Bean catalog cover.
The big question is: now that you have it and have started to take stock of what you have, what is the plan?
The big question is: now that you have it and have started to take stock of what you have, what is the plan?