1973 Wagoneer - Full Size Camping Goodness

Don't give up on the dream - that's one amazing looking vehicle! Old Jeeps seem to be a lot like old Landies, giving strife at the most inconvenient time, but when they work the smile on ones face while wheeling a 40 year old rig can't be beat.
 

Morticon

Adventurer
I dont care what anyone says. You are doing it right my good sir! I wish my Cherokee has the rearwindow roll down like yours does. It would be amazing for my dog!
 

Dr. Marneaus

Station Wagoneer
I'd call that small potatoes as far as issues go. Battery tie down, wheel cylinder, and a steering box bolt aren't the end of the world.

How many miles did you put on it over the entire weekend?

about 150 miles with just those two trips, not counting the driving on friday night and sunday during the day.

I'm not super worried about the issues, it just figures is all.
 

clandr1

Adventurer
about 150 miles with just those two trips, not counting the driving on friday night and sunday during the day.

I'm not super worried about the issues, it just figures is all.

Look at it this way - the more you drive, the more you fix, the smaller your issues become, right? Hang in there. Lord knows I've had issues with my '89, but I got through the lion's share of those in the first 2-3 years of ownership. I'm at the point where I'm no longer wondering if it'll leave me stranded - I have a functional, capable, reliable third vehicle (even though it isn't very pretty).


In 2012 I drove it from Dallas to Silverton, CO, camped/off roaded for 5 days on the Alpine Loop, then drove it back. No issues on what was a 1800+ mile round trip.
In 2013 I drove it from Dallas to Big Bend, drove around the National Park for 4 days and then came back. No issues on what was a 1100 mile round trip.


Trust me, the longer you have it, the more issues you'll work out. You'll get "there" eventually. Don't give up.
 

Dr. Marneaus

Station Wagoneer
Well,

The last time I pulled the campah with the jeep I was so unhappy because of the severe vibrations under load, and on ANY grade at all. On even slights hills on the highway I couldnt keep 55mph because the truck was vibrating so bad.

Flash forward past the new unicorn axle and all that crap, and we arrive at present day. My girl wants to take her family camping when they come visit in a few weeks, so I figured it made a good excuse to take a shake down run.

The plan: Load up the wag with me, her, the dog, and whatever crap we needed, swing by work to pick up the campah, then head for cooler climates. Specifically Humboldt-Toiyabe National Forest. Spring Mountain National Recreation Area. Mt. Charleston, if you will. There is an area called Mack's Canyon that is more or less "open" camping. Take a long and winding dirt road that ends at a group camp site, but has many nice little spots along it, away from people and away from the main road.

Lets do this!


Loaded up, gassed up, drove across the city and grabbed the Campah (which thankfully was on the way).

We are headed somewhere up in them thar mountains:


Here's the thing that worried me, and here's what we were here to test...

We turned off the highway at around 3000' elevation, and after the 14 miles to Macks Canyon, we would be right around 7600'. Macks Canyon Road goes varies roughly around 7600'-8300' in elevation. I dunno, but gaining 5000' in 14 miles seems like a bit of a grade!

For a while, I was having no issues keeping 45mph headed up the hill. I wasnt trying to push it. It was about 104* that day, and we had just pulled a ways on the highway also slightly up hill from the city. To the trucks credit, it never crossed 210* the whole time. Temp gauge was hovering between 195* and 205* and about 3/4ths of the way there (just passed 6000' mark), it started acting up. Every few seconds it would lag for a fraction of a second, like a hiccup. I tried to get on the gas more, and it just was coughing and sputtering, and smelled odd. I'm assuming at this point the carb was just heat soaked and I was boiling fuel? Got to the point where I pulled over, let the truck idle for about 2 minutes, then got back on the road. Stayed in 2nd gear, and couldn't go much past 30mph, but it was running smooth enough. Guess the hill and the camper were just too much for the old girl.

In the past, going up the hill sans trailer, it was a struggle to keep 45mph, so I guess this is par for the course? Oh well, we pressed on.



Soon, we saw the turn off for Macks Canyon. Thats pretty much the "story" part of the story. The rest was a normal trip that went well!



Desert way below!


Soon I got camp set up



Somebody was happy:


The whole dang time he kept trying to eat flys that were buzzing around. Dummy.


Decided to go for a little walk, again, you can see the desert floor way down there.




Just me and the dog.


We've really been enjoying the little old pop up.


What kind of camping trip is it without a cigar and PBR?


Somebody was nice enough to whip up a batch of chili



While somebody was clearly all tuckered out...


It cooled down to the 60's at night but nothing bad.

Woke up, I cooked some eggs up and reheated a little chili, made a pot of coffee, it was a good morning. It was probably the most I've ever slept in on a camping trip. didnt wake until about 8am.

We loaded up, and headed out around 10:30



Gives a good idea of the elevation, with the valley floor wayyyyy down there.


The road isnt bad but there are a few spots we had to go pretty slow with the camper. I had taken my dodge magnum up in here before, and some fairly basic vehicles were driving in and out. Still, being away from the road is what our goal was, and there were only a handfull of cars that passed our campsite.




Back to pavement and headed doooowwwwnnnn. These pics kind of give the idea of how high we were, which you never notice on the way up.


down


down....



and finally back to the valley floor on the highway.


Headed home it was about 102* and she pulled like a champ once we got off the mountain. It's just them big ole hills that get her I guess.

So, that was my weekend! Thanks for reading!
 

unabashedpraise

Adventurer
Sounds like a good time. I'm not sure about the pbr, but to each, his own.

I don't remember, did you re-gear the rear end? Maybe the gearing is too high for the load plus climb?

Still digging the jeep. I want a blue one.

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Root Moose

Expedition Leader
Great stuff. The only thing I'd change at this point is look at swapping a GM TBI or Edelbrock EFI setup. Probably all but eliminate the few remaining drivability issues, especially when towing.
 

Dr. Marneaus

Station Wagoneer
Sounds like a good time. I'm not sure about the pbr, but to each, his own.

I don't remember, did you re-gear the rear end? Maybe the gearing is too high for the load plus climb?

Still digging the jeep. I want a blue one.

Sent from my XT1056 using Tapatalk

Gearing used to be 3.31 now its. 3.54. Both were the factory tow package options for 1973 and 1977 respectively.

Great stuff. The only thing I'd change at this point is look at swapping a GM TBI or Edelbrock EFI setup. Probably all but eliminate the few remaining drivability issues, especially when towing.

You hit the nail on the head. That's my next big mod. Been researching it for a while now. Not really wanting to do a junkyard swap but will likely pick up a 'turnkey' kit from one of the tbi conversion experts over on binder planet. Just need to save a lot of pennies lol.
 

Dr. Marneaus

Station Wagoneer
I'm a pretty big craft beer drinker, the woman is a certified Cicerone.....we know good beer.

However, there is a time and a place for everything, including PBR :)

This time and place was the middle of the woods on a hot hot day. Don't want no heavy drinkin' IPA or anything, just some nice, light, drinkable cheap beer!
 

WrenchMonkey

Mechanical Animal
Don't want no heavy drinkin' IPA or anything, just some nice, light, drinkable cheap beer!

Try the Founders All-Day. That's exactly the point of a session, something easy you can drink -well- all day!

Plus, the label was just made for you...

All-Day-IPA-6pack+bottle_web.jpg
 

Dr. Marneaus

Station Wagoneer
Ha, awesome.

I dont think we have founders distributed out here, i'll check with the woman and she can check with the distributors. I will need to have a case or 6er of that in the wag everywhere I go, haha.
 

unabashedpraise

Adventurer
I agree. A pilsner does have it's place. I generally try for a light ipa or a nice witbier, but have been known to cheap out on some Coors, the banquet beer.
 

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