1984 FWC Hawk Refurbish

HunterMike

Observer
Okay, FWC called and my lift panel is shipping tomorrow, that was fast. I better get a move on it.

New flooring donenew flooring (2).jpg

Front canvas cleaned and patchedfront soft wall.jpg

hmm, maybe two full size slide out drawers here?storage cabinet.jpg

and the Engel fridge will fit, but will stick out 2". I can live with that, but that's still down the road. refrig area.jpg

Need power and propane installed and working and heater tested for Sep 19th trial run.
 

bimmeryota

Observer
Great find! I look forward to seeing the progress. I like the idea of keeping it as vintage as possible, at least for the outside. It goes great with that model of F series.
 

HunterMike

Observer
Thanks Bimmeryota, still undecided on exterior, but that is last on list.

Been crazy busy at work, but with the 3 day weekend at hand, time to get some stuff done.

Saw big brother today while out getting materialsbig brother.jpg

Having an extra 2' bed length...hmm...I am jealous of the grey interior, after 4 years I'm not sure I have gotten used to my dark blue...but when you buy used...
got the propane system hooked up and tested stove and heater. Yeah, both work!new propane hose and regulator.jpgpropane system installed.jpg

Installed new screens on side window and rear door,
got lift panel ready to install. Thanks all who have posted this here and on WTW, it really helped.New lift panel ready to install.jpg
also got Velcro attached on lift panel and front wall. Tomorrow, installvelcro on front wall.jpgvelcro on lift panel.jpg
 
Lookin' good HunterMike! The panels in my '85 Fleet are gonna need replacing soon :-( but I'm gonna try to build them myself cause I just don't want to fork over the $$. Keep posting pics of the install.
 

HunterMike

Observer
Thanks,
I was going to try to replace just the plywood myself as well, but the upper and lower hinges were rusted in place so they wouldn't move. I figured I'm into the camper cheap enough I could splurge on the panel. It cost half as much as I paid for the whole camper!:Wow1:
I'm not too crazy about the black color, but I do like the composite material. Keep your fingers crossed for the install tomorrow.
 

el-cid

Observer
Subscribed to this one for sure. I picked up an '87 Hawk from the son of the original owner last Fall and haven't had time to do anything with it yet. I'm weighing making my own replacement lift panels, buying panels from FWC or buying panels from ATC. Did the rivet holes in the new composite lift panel line up with the holes in your camper? I love that there are so many of these being fixed/restored lately, it gives me inspiration!
 

HunterMike

Observer
El-CID, no, the holes do not line up. In fact, the old panel is 71" wide while the new panel is 60" wide. I am hoping to get the holes to somewhat line up, but I'm not sure it will happen. My helper will be here in 45 minutes and I can't wait to get started. I didn't even think about ATC, but that is one reason I went new instead of rebuilding, I needed new hinges and they came in 60" not my required 71". I didn't think that having 60" hinges top and bottom and 71" in the middle would have worked. Even though I haven't started, I would say this is the hardest part so far. I have plans to add house batteries, solar, fridge, new cabinets, cut a fourth hole for tie-down, etc and that is all pretty straight forward. To get all that done, I need the lift panel replaced because the top hinge was completely detached from panel when purchased. I also need to get temporary roof support removed to gain access to get some of these things done.


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HunterMike

Observer
Ultimate FAIL. Well, maybe not ultimate, but definitely a fail...on the first try.

Okay, start at the beginning. When ordering the panel from FWC, they asked how tall it was (measuring both lower and upper panel), uh my upper panel was destroyed, the hinge stayed in the roof as the panel came off. So I measured as best I could and measured the rear panel as well, should be the same I thought. Came up with 25 1/4". They said that was in the range.

So new panel comes, set up everything with straps and ready to install. Too tall, by 1 1/2" by my count, 2" by my helpers count. (he does auto body work for a living so I figure he is better at fitting stuff back together than I am). Damn. Now what...helper says let's just cut 2" off the top and re-rivet hinge back on. okay. Do that and install. Height is almost perfect, (should have trimmed 1 1/2", not 2" but it looks good. Okay let's put the top down. Oh crap, the front roof is pushed back about 2", won't close. Oh duh, it's a hinge, should have trimmed 1" from top and 1" from bottom. Crap. So, we talk about maybe relocating center hinge down an inch or so, so that hinge is centered. But we are already short by 1/2", that will make it even shorter.

Just finished 3rd coat of poly on new 1/4" birch plywood. Doing 4 coats. Cut plywood so that it measures 24" and center hinge is centered. Hopefully will get hinges reinstalled yet tonight and tomorrow night we will install again.

If I had good hinges and a good template to begin with, this is the route I would have taken. But my top and bottom hinge are rusted in place and the top plywood left little to use as template. That and FWC not offering the 71" hinge anymore, blah blah blah. I am confident this will work. My wife asked me what plan C is. Ha Ha.

So word of advice to anyone thinking about doing this because their panels are starting to fail, measure now. Do the work BEFORE panel comes out of rivets. I didn't have that choice, you do. It's not hard, it is just time consuming and at times tedious.
 

el-cid

Observer
Ouch, that hurts. Needless to say, this tends to lean me toward building my own panels. My hinges are all good though my panels are self-destructing. If you could, please show us your new panel construction process.
 

LuckyDan

Adventurer
One advantage to the narrower lift panels, I think, is that when folded down the narrower panels won't "pinch" the soft side as much. My Grandby is an 89 with the foam insulation included with the soft side. When I got it it had some wear in the corners from the panels when folded.

Still wishing you well with your referb.
 

HunterMike

Observer
Thanks guys, here's to hoping no more $400+ mistakes.

LD: yes, I believe the narrower panel will help clear the sides when closing. When I redo the rear panel, it will be 60" as well.

Just finished rebuilding the new panel. Shooting for install tomorrow evening. I will post pics of complete process when complete, and sure it works.

Fingers crossed:)

Teaser:
New and old lift panel.jpg
 

HunterMike

Observer
Lift Panel, Take 2

Thanks SLO, live and learn...

For those that have asked I show how I built the new panels, here we go. Again, this is how I built them, not saying there isn't a better way. It has been a long couple of evenings, so I hope I put this in the proper order.

Before disassembling old panel, mark every hinge as to where it goes, what side is facing you, which direction is up, which direction is down, etc.

I had panels to trace.
Cut panels and predrilled center hinge holes on both upper and lower panel.
As I drilled thru lower panel, I also drilled thru another sheet of wood for 2 reasons: 1: less tear out, 2: I bolted hinge into this scrap sheet to line up holes for upper panel
I also predrilled the center support frame
Mark center hinge.jpg
template for center hinge.jpg

I then stained panels with holes for center hinge already drilled. I should have pre-drilled ceiling and wall hinge, but I didn't.
Rear ready.jpgFront ready.jpg
 

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