1985 Toyota 4runner...Need ideas

1stgenoverland

Adventurer
Hello everyone...Im new here. Just bought a sweet old 4runner. I want to get it ready for a few local trails in BC that I want to do next summer. Never done a vehicle up before so I'm looking for Ideas. Ill tell you what I have: Nothing...Just a bone stock 4runner. :wings: I would really like to get some 31's, Front and rear bumpers, Tire carrier, Roof rack and roof top tent. Of course I need a snorkel and a winch. Would be sweet if I could get some pics of what you guys have done to your Gen 1 4runners in regards to these things. Also what has worked well with the 4runners. What has been a complete flop. Need to know...I want to do this right the first time and get out on the trail ASAP...Do I hear Whipsaw trail anybody. Planning a trip out there next summer with My Old Man and his BJ42 Landcruiser. Over and Out
 

BIGdaddy

Expedition Leader
You're going to love that rig. It's very comfortable and even rigs that have lockers, duel transfer cases and are armored up the whazoo, still retain very good on-road driving charactoristics.

My two rigs never had any issues with regards to any major systems (engine, tranny, tcase, drivelines, cooling, etc) and simply required a good baseline of maintenence and lubrication

These rigs are a bit on the flimsy side as far as safety goes, so I personally am a big proponent of a so-called "family cage" that ties into the rear factory roll bar, in case of a flop or accident.

One common mod I've seen a lot of happiness/contentment with, is removing the heavy fibreglass removable top and heavy roll-up rear tailgate in favor of a Can-back soft top with, or without windows. The sides can be rolled up for nice days, and can be battened down for waterproofing during rainy days.

The tailgate gets removed, and replaced with one from a 2nd gen pickup from the same year/range. (or you can just perminantly roll down the glass on the stock setup.)

Canback tops aren't cheap, but you'll be getting a solid product, and you'll definitely feel the added pep that the motor gets from hundreds of pounds being removed.

That being said, other than being heavy, the top itself is a very good unit if you're concerned with wet/weather and coldproofing. I spent 3 winters in northern california driving up to the Lake tahoe area full of passengers, snowboards and gear, and I never had any issue with water or not enough heat for the rear seat.

Is this rig a bit slow? yes. You'll be doing 50-55 up big hills in 3rd gear. But so what? You'll be comfortable, and getting mid 20's as far as mpg's go while doing it.

Cheers and great choice.
 
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Owyhee H

Adventurer
My best mod is gas....the 85 will do most things stock. If you want 31's go for it, they will be fine with stock gearing. You can add a locker in the rear to really help out. I did an e-locker in a modified 85 rear housing, it wasn't very hard. If you want wider axles the tacoma rear axle that is already housing an e-locker can be bolted up, its about 3" wider. I prefer a part time locker for drive-ability and tires.

Get good recovery gear, good tires, and make sure all the maintainance is up to date.

If you want a swing out, rear bumpers can get spendy. You can fab a rear bumper or have a local shop do it for you. There are nice rockcrawler bumpers out there but they dont have swingouts.

Front bumers can be anything from a bull bar(ARB) plate style bumper or a rockcrawler bumper which is a little like a prerunner bumper. There are a lot to choose from, you have to decide on what purpose and look you want.

If you are doing a lot of trails some really like to have sliders, although this will add weight and cut down on your payload. I have found that I dont need sliders, but I dont go looking for the hardest route and trail.

If you are crawling a lot then you can get lower t-case gears, but isnt really necessary for most overlanding adventures.

Really unless you want to find trouble the stock 85 4runner with a good set of tires should take you where you want to go. Take the rig out and find the limitations, then build to suit. There are many fine examples of 85 4runners out there, you just have to decide what your intended purpose is before you know which one to emulate.

Congrats on the new rig and welcome to expo!:victory:
 

BIGdaddy

Expedition Leader
i would first make it absolutely reliable. 2) tires 3) armor 4) rear locker. just my opinion. my 89 has 33's and a rear spool and goes everywhere i feel comfortable pointing it at. good luck
 

TangoBlue

American Adventurist
If the Campbell River is in Canada then you need to hook up with this crowd... http://www.ct4wd.com/forum/index.php

Solid group of wheelers with a wealth of experience and skill. I'm planning a trip with them this summer on the Whipsaw Trail.

Enjoy your build and good luck.
 

4runnin'

Observer
Here is how I did my rear tire carrier. This is version 2. Really wanted to get the tire out from the cargo area as well as being able to carry more gas. Depends where you want to go is what should dictate your build. If you are staying out of the rocks, then the rear locker would be my first mod. If you will be getting into technical trails then dual cases are a huuuuuuge plus. :smiley_drive:

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austintaco

Explorer
Start checking for rust now if you plan to keep it. The chrome trim rings on the fender, the plastic trim in front of rear wheel wells, and the door sill trim tend to hide the stuff.

I got lucky with mine, and it had very minimal rust, but it can be a killer on these rigs.

I still carry my spare ratcheted to the roll bar when I go out on a trail. Its cheap and it works for now.
 

4Rescue

Expedition Leader
IMO you should do:

OME (Old Man Emu) lift (they really are amazing suspensions for Toyotas and ANYTHING they make product for

Marlin Bumpers and sliders (Marlin is, to me, THE guy to go to for Toyota parts)

33/10.50 BFG AT's or KM2's depending on your needs but STAY SKINNY on these trucks and you can fit even 35/10.50's with NO lift.

Re-Gear the Diff's to 4.88's or 5.29 depending on your needs again.

Then take'r out and be amazed at what is litteraly one of THE coolest rigs ever to make it to our shores. The Wheel-Base is perfect, they clilb like no Wrangler(except Scramblers LJ's and JK Unlimited's) ever will. They're AMAZINGlY beefy for how small a rig they really are and it will serve you for MANY years to come.

on down the road depending on your needs I'd say:

Marlin Dual T-cases

F/R Arb's or Toyota E-locker conversions

Then kit out the back however you like it. I would HIGHLY suggest you keep an eye on the rear window mechanism and do as I'm going to and replace the cardboard and carpet rear tailgate skin with a sheetmetal piece like I'm doing. I'm also putting a UHMW cutting board on one side of my T-gate for camping use. My better half and I use ours for all sorts of things. I've got OME rear springs and I just loaded her up to the gills with some VERY heavy, wet wood and it didn't even phase the suspension one bit. We have an old Futon that we fold up in the back (rear seat bottoms removed and seats folded flat) and then pack into Rubber-Maid Action packers and various Dry-bags I have being a Rafter. Get to camp, pull out the camping gear and leave it. Undo the rafting strap (Cam-strap) and fold out the bed, turn on the lantern hangign off the rear roll bar and were ready to sleep. We've made ALOT of our friends jealous as with this set-up.

Nice rig mate, as I said IMO these are really one of the COOLEST trucks ever to be offered in the US.

Cheers

DAve
 

1stgenoverland

Adventurer
thanks for all the pics and links...was wondering if I could see some pics of your guys rigs....get some visual ideas. Also...why the frick can't you find 31 inch tires in 9.5" widths...fricken stupid...
 

Owyhee H

Adventurer
I agree on the 31x9.5 inch tires, but what can you do. 10.50's are not too wide.

Here is a look at my truck from a little while back.

I know it dosen't show much but it is nice clean simple and effective....most of the modifications don't need to be seen.
 

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