2012 Fuso OBD II scanguage and Stienbauer module.

[SkiFreak]

does it plug into the OBDII port?

No, it uses an intercept harness that goes between the injectors and the OEM injector harness. It also has a sense wire that takes a voltage reading from the fly by wire mechanism fitted to the accelerator.
Unlike many of the power chips that are on the market, the Steinbauer does not increase rail pressure, instead, it modifies the injector pulse timing to allow more fuel to get into the engine.

When I did my own installation I wrote a small article on my website, which you can view here, should you want some more information about these units.

 

[drudru]

No, it uses an intercept harness that goes between the injectors and the OEM injector harness. It also has a sense wire that takes a voltage reading from the fly by wire mechanism fitted to the accelerator.
Unlike many of the power chips that are on the market, the Steinbauer does not increase rail pressure, instead, it modifies the injector pulse timing to allow more fuel to get into the engine.

When I did my own installation I wrote a small article on my website, which you can view here, should you want some more information about these units.

Thank you for the info. I will order one and test it.

 

[kanga1]

Didn't you say that the truck surges even without the Steinbauer?

There is insufficient power without the Steinbauer to be 100 % sure whether it surges or not, it is not detectable. Initial thoughts were that the Steinbauer was amplifying an existing problem with the factory ECU, this has proved groundless, after 3 hours of testing by the 2 Techies last week. Kanga.

 

[dlh62c]

Often its difficult to troubleshoot an issue if there's more than one weak or failed component.

The surging your talking about, is it rhythmic?

Is the surging heard, as in reduction of the engine RPM’s or is the surging felt, as in a reduction of power, as sensed though the seat of your pants?

Are you sure there’s no air trapped in the fuel system components?

The integrity of the low pressure part of the fuel system is important for the entire fuel system to work properly. Have any additional fuel filters been installed on the low pressure side of the fuel system?

 

[kanga1]

Often its difficult to troubleshoot an issue if there's more than one weak or failed component.

The surging your talking about, is it rhythmic?

Is the surging heard, as in reduction of the engine RPM's or is the surging felt, as in a reduction of power, as sensed though the seat of your pants?

Are you sure there's no air trapped in the fuel system components?

The integrity of the low pressure part of the fuel system is important for the entire fuel system to work property. Have any additional fuel filters been installed on the low pressure side of the fuel system?

Hi there, the surges are almost like it randomly dropping a cylinder and then it kicking back in again. Since the Techies worked on it last week, it is better than it was, now it is most noticable under reasonably heavy load (steep long inclines) and at around 2600 RPM and up ( it redlines at 4000). It is most definatly noticed by the seat of your pants as a loss of power, I wouldn't call it rythmic, it's fairly random really. It has an extra fuel filter fitted after the factory one ( a largish Donaldson, which is newly fitted, and the system was purged of any air by Mitsubishi at the big service it just had).
Hopefully the Steinbauer module is on its way to or even in Queensland getting tweeked as we speak, and will be returned asap.
As a footnote, I hae ordered up an OBD2 Bluetooth gadget for reading info on my Android phone, I'll get back to the thread with a report on whether or not it will talk to the Mitsubishi Pixies. Cheers.

 

[SkiFreak]

It has an extra fuel filter fitted after the factory one ( a largish Donaldson, which is newly fitted, and the system was purged of any air by Mitsubishi at the big service it just had).

Unless your truck has a primer pump fitted in the fuel tank, that could definitely be your problem, . If your primer pump is at the engine and the Donaldson has too fine a filter element, you could be starving the engine of fuel.

 

[kanga1]

Unless your truck has a primer pump fitted in the fuel tank, that could definitely be your problem, . If your primer pump is at the engine and the Donaldson has too fine a filter element, you could be starving the engine of fuel.

About 125kms from Toowoomba when we bought the truck, a fuel line fitting broke at the factory filter outlet where the line goes on to the Donaldson filter, spraying fuel everywhere underneath the truck. I reckon there is a pump in the tank or at the OEM Filter housing right next to the fuel tank. Can't remember how many microns the Donaldson is off hand, I just had a couple freighted to me for the trip as spares. Cheers, Kanga.

 

[drudru]

Hi guys, we bought a Australian delivered 2012 high range Fuso Canter in Queensland a couple of months ago with an ATW P/C body converted to a camper, ATW wheels and suspension, weighs in about 5.3 Tonnes. The asthmatic 3 litre motor struggled on the hills around home here in Tassie, so I had a Steinbauer module fitted, it has made a big difference to the torque and it climbs hills around home much better
Cheers, Kanga.

Is your Fuso fitted with the DPF system with DEF injection? Any warning caused by the Steinbauer?

 

[kanga1]

Is your Fuso fitted with the DPF system with DEF injection? Any warning caused by the Steinbauer?

Hi mate, it has the DPF system fitted and I have had DPF faults come up with the Steinbauer fitted, this was prior to the Techies playing computer games with it last week. Haven't heard what's going on with the Steinbauer yet, if I still haven't heard anything by Thursday next week, I'll chase it up, time is ticking away. Cheers, Kanga

 

[drudru]

Let me know, I have someone nearby ready to deliver it. If your issues are solved, I might still get it.
Thanks

 

[kanga1]

Let me know, I have someone nearby ready to deliver it. If your issues are solved, I might still get it.
Thanks

Will do, got a call from the Hobart people to say the Module is back and is going to be re-fitted on Tuesday next week. I really hope it is sorted, driving the truck around here without it is a real chore ( quite hilly ). I'll get back to the thread when I've got the thing in and have done a few kms. Cheers.

 

[kanga1]

Wasted days.

Looks like the truck is finally working as it should. It has taken two techs and about 4 days to get this thing running properly Wednesday, we leave on Monday. Up until lunchtime on Wednesday I was about to order a new Alternator for my 1997 Defender to be able to go in that!
This Steinbauer Module has given so much grief since it went in, even the experts can't tell you what is going on, I'm sick of hearing "It shouldn't do that"
Enough of the rant.
We have tried two ECU's and two Steinbauer modules in all combinations. What threw a spanner in was a Fuso software update that was done with one of the chips wired in, it made no difference over standard with the chip on and gradually dialed up on the potentiometer (adjuster inside the module).
Be wary of Fuso ECU upgrades.
The end result of a very long and stressfull 3 days this week, 2 days last week, and countless days prior to that to get this 4 year old truck with 60,000kms running properly with a Steinbauer module is this.
The ECU software upgrade will be installed at your next service if it hasn't already. Make sure that the Steiny is not active when this happens, earth out the grey wire if your Steiny has this option to have it switched off. It may freak the system out and you might not get any benefits from your Steiny afterwards. You really DON'T want to start hearing " It shouldn't do that".
The surging that my truck was experiencing was in a nut shell too much boost/fuel momentarily, the thing would boost up to 27psi and then drop back to 20-23 while accellerating, (making the dropping a cylinder feeling that I was getting from it when this happened). In my truck the factory setting for the chip was set too high (at 12 O'Clock). After all the Bull$#1t we have been through with this over the last few weeks, the short version of the fix for our truck was to bring the Steiny setting a quarter turn back (anti clockwise) to 9 O'Clock. The boost maxes out at 24 psi, so far (in 150 kms) no surging experienced, the benefits of the Steiny are noticable but not dramatic which I am happy with. Time will tell, but we are more positive now.

Thanks to Sam at Specialised Auto Electrical in Hobart, CJD in Brighton, and Andrew the Wizard at DieselCare Dalby QLD.

As a Footnote I bought a cheap Bluetooth OBDII diagnostic thing to plug into the port under the dash for under $20 Aussie and an ap for my android phone for about 5 bucks. It works a treat, can tell you an enormous amount of useful and maybe not so useful information about what is going on with the truck. Brilliant well worth the money, I also got a code reading ap which will give you some idea of where to look if it throws up a fault code, I think that it allows fault codes to be reset as well. Awesome.


Cheers, Kanga...........................:smiley_drive: :rockon:

 

[SkiFreak]

As a Footnote I bought a cheap Bluetooth OBDII diagnostic thing to plug into the port under the dash for under $20 Aussie and an ap for my android phone for about 5 bucks. It works a treat, can tell you an enormous amount of useful and maybe not so useful information about what is going on with the truck.

I wish...
None of the scan tools that I have tried, and there have been quite a few now, have been able to extract any usable data from my 2010 FG84.
I can only assume that in the FGB71 the output from the OBD-II port is actually OBD-II compliant, not proprietary, as mine is.

Good to hear that you have finally sorted stuff out.

 

[pugslyyy]

I wish...
None of the scan tools that I have tried, and there have been quite a few now, have been able to extract any usable data from my 2010 FG84.
I can only assume that in the FGB71 the output from the OBD-II port is actually OBD-II compliant, not proprietary, as mine is.

Good to hear that you have finally sorted stuff out.

I find that the cheap OBD2 dongle is able to read and clear codes on my 2007 but that all of the real time data readings are garbage. As a code-clearer it works but as a diagnostic tool not so much.

 

[kanga1]

Fingers crossed we don't have any issues while we're away. It's a pity that you haven't had any luck with the scanning gear, I find it really useful, a well spent $25 or so. Thanks for your wishes. Cheers, Kanga.