I'm so sick of the diesels. Don't get me wrong, in the early days they were the way to go. The old 12 valve cummins, 6.2 Chevy's, even the under-powered 6.9 and 7.3 IDI's were dependable, and did a lot of work. I grew up around all of them. While none of the early engines were quit as simple and dependable as the old cummins, they all had a role. Currently I still own one. A 1997 F-350 with a 7.3 power stroke. I do like it. It's not as stout as the old cummins I came out of, but it's no slouch either. But.....it has just enough electronics on it that it can be problematic. I just don't trust it. And it's expensive to maintain. Now, my other 1997 F-350 has a 460. While it is stupid hard on gas- it's AMAZINGLY dependable. It always starts, even when temps are sub-zero. There's very few things that will just randomly shut it down - unlike its big diesel counterpart. Maybe a fuel pump....which live in the fuel tanks. But I have a flat bed and can and have changed them both with the bed on. There's room. So the point is- I'll own one of them 6.2's one day. If I could choose....I'd have a new-ish F-350 4x4 extended cab long bed (and not a dual wheel job either) I'll take an auto, please (both my current trucks are manual shift). I'd also like that XL package that has a tilt wheel and power door locks and windows while still wearing vinyl seats and floor. That'd be sweet. No DEF, no "deletes" to do. No $100 dollar services, and it seems like every diesel repair will run $1,000 or more. BLAH!!!! And I keep hearing people say "I can justify a gas, I don't haul more than 10,000 pounds." Yeah, well I tow over 20,000 with my 460 plenty. It's not as fast as the diesel, and it'll drink a barge worth of gas. But it pulls it. And not bad either. I think I'm done with the diesels. Interesting thread, thanks for starting it, and thanks to the guys posting!