Chrysler makes the only solid front axle and rear diff lock in North America? Pretty sure the F-250 that you're so familiar with has a 35 spline Dana 60 up front and locking rear diff on the FX4 model.
No front locker available on the F-250.
What he said. F250 has an optional rear locker, but no front locker.
But those are just average numbers for Toyota's. Modern Toyota's are just as good as older ones. I've owned and own both. ONCE again. Driving on nice American roads IS not the same as driving on roads in Africa or Middle East countries. I've been there. Like I mentioned before. On the FOB I was on in Iraq, most American trucks were having issues just driving around the fob.
What kinds of issues were American trucks having? Could you be more specific? The roads in areas like Iraq and Afghanistan aren't all that bad compared to the BLM and forestry roads in the remote parts of the US and Canada, so stop making such a big deal about that. In fact, I'd argue that some of the remote roads in North America can be worse.
All the miners, loggers, farmers, energy and other industrial workers use American trucks on fairly rough roads throughout their working lives; those people don't seem to have any major problems. This idea that Toyota is the only company capable of making a reliable and robust 4x4 in this modern era is laughable. You're believing what you want to believe and ignoring those data points that don't conform to those beliefs.
You keep bringing up new domestic trucks, but as I've said, I was referring to the last 20 years including the 80 and 100 series. I still haven't seen you list a single vehicle that are more well made for overlanding (and reliable) than the Land Cruiser. Subjective or not, at this point I'm just asking for your opinion. Name one. One.
Edit: If you can't even name one, your argument is invalid. You're just proving that the fanboys have a reason to back up their subjective claims.
My argument is invalid if I can't provide an opinion on the subjective topic of which vehicle makes for the best overlander? "Invalid" would suggest there is some true or false aspect to this discussion; there isn't. This discussion is entirely subjective.
The Ram Power Wagon and Jeep Wrangler are both tested and well regarded platforms in the overlanding community. The Ford Raptor, while limited on payload, has a chassis that is arguably over-engineered for the type of driving that most overlanders do. Whether or not any of those are better than something like a LC is entirely subjective and not worth arguing over; it's up to an individual to figure that out.
And by the way, thank you for at least acknowledging that Toyota LC fanboys do in fact exist. I'm not picking fights with certain LC owners because I have some sort of inferiority complex. I just have a hard time staying silent when I see some of the myopic and unverified statements that are passed off as fact around here. Let's review what we've seen so far:
1) Toyota LC's are 10x better than domestic 4x4's.
2) Toyota LC's have a 25 year service life.
3) LC 80's inline 6 gasser is a million mile engine.
4) LC 80 had a transmission derived from a bus.
I've yet to see any sources for these "facts" but they certainly do get regurgitated around here as if they were derived from holy scripture.
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