2017 F-150 build...Everyone meet Walter White

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Is that washer upside down?

Put a locking pliers/ vice grips on the top of the shaft to hold it while you spin the nut with an open end wrench. The shaft may even have a hex socket in the end.
 

SDDiver5

Expedition Leader
Is that washer upside down?

Put a locking pliers/ vice grips on the top of the shaft to hold it while you spin the nut with an open end wrench. The shaft may even have a hex socket in the end.

That’s exactly what I did. Allen on top and tightened it. It was loose. It appears to be mostly fixed.

It occurred to me that my wife’s cousin works at fox as an engineer. I called him and talked to him about it and sent the pics. He said he can’t imagine the washer would be put in wrong but it’s possible. But yes, it appears it was put on wrong.

Gonna see how it does tomorrow driving around so we’ll see


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Ozarker

Well-known member
That’s exactly what I did. Allen on top and tightened it. It was loose. It appears to be mostly fixed.

It occurred to me that my wife’s cousin works at fox as an engineer. I called him and talked to him about it and sent the pics. He said he can’t imagine the washer would be put in wrong but it’s possible. But yes, it appears it was put on wrong.

Gonna see how it does tomorrow driving around so we’ll see


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As to that washer, I've noticed that before and I was told that the washer is inverted to allow that rubber bushing to flex upward under a load, otherwise it would dig into the rubber causing it to wear quicker.
 

tacollie

Glamper
That’s exactly what I did. Allen on top and tightened it. It was loose. It appears to be mostly fixed.

It occurred to me that my wife’s cousin works at fox as an engineer. I called him and talked to him about it and sent the pics. He said he can’t imagine the washer would be put in wrong but it’s possible. But yes, it appears it was put on wrong.

Gonna see how it does tomorrow driving around so we’ll see


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How much did you tighten it? I've seen people over tighten those bushing which leads to premature wear.
 

SDDiver5

Expedition Leader
How much did you tighten it? I've seen people over tighten those bushing which leads to premature wear.
Yeah that's what my wifes cousin said. I tightened it enough to get the bushing and the washer to sit together. Maybe 4 complete turns. I didn't feel like it was overly tight but also have no idea what I'm doing lol

But also might use this as a "Honey I need new shocks..................."
 

SDDiver5

Expedition Leader
I installed the washer opposite than you did on my Fox 2.0 front shocks.
Mine came with the coil already installed when I ordered them so I never touched that part.

Talked to my wifes cousin again this morning. He said he spoke to a tech guy and the tech said that the washers can become inverted if the shock tops out at full droop. I've definitely stressed the front and rear shocks on many occasions but cant remember a specific time it would have been extreme. Maybe during my trip to the sierras, but I'm not sure.

But it also makes me think, is an upgrade necessary? I can justify it given how I use my truck. I kind of wonder how many people, with the same setup, offroad as much as I do and are in the same situations. If it was 99.9% a street queen and only did fire roads it would be a different story. I have many pics that I've taken for the gram doing some sexy flexy stuff.
 

SDDiver5

Expedition Leader
Got back early Sunday from a 2 night camp trip in Anza Borrego. We all took a half day from work and headed east on I-8 and started south this time and worked our way north. First night we camped near Dos Cabezas Spring which was lovely and had beautiful scenery. Very joshua tree vibey. Made a great dinner, had some drinks and say a few shooting stars, some of which were very, very bright, so maybe a little meteor shower? Around 9PM a 4 runner came into our camp and this guy just sat in there for what seemed like minutes (probably closer to 30 seconds lol). He got out of his car and started walking towards us, kind of hiding behind one of the trucks and pops his head out and asked if there were any cave dwellers here. It of course freaked us out and we were all on high alert and a few of us were under the influence. It ended up being the wrong campsite and he was trying to find some friends. Apparently they meet at that spot once a year and go cave hunting. There was some relevance to the way the Native Americans did it back in the day hence the cave dweller part. I didn't understand. Luckily there was 1 sober person there who chatted with him and once he was on his way talked us into not worrying as it was just an old guy trying to find his friends lol.

About 30 minutes later way off in the distance we see these crazy amber lights being shot up in the sky. From my perspective, they were just being shot up from the ground and hovering in place. My friends in camp had their own ideas and our imagination wandered because we had just finished up a ridiculous campfire chat about if Aliens asked us if we wanted to see another universe, if we would go with them or not.

I did not sleep well that night :LOL:

Day 2 we had a big day planned so packed up pretty quick and early and hit the road. We saw our cave dweller friend about 100 yards away at another camp site and had a quick laugh with him. Continued on some trails and stopped at the offroad touristy sites in the southern AB area around the railroad. I have always wanted to try out Jojoba wash so we headed down that direction. Once we got to really the only difficult part of the trail we realized quickly that we did not want to squeeze our full size trucks through it. I would have done it personally but we were with a stock 22 Tremor and he understandably had no interest. We back up and out of the trail and took a different direction to S2.

From S2 we headed north to Canyon Sin Nombre and down Diable drop off. With all the rains recently there were many, many canyon walls that had collapsed, a few of them creating new obstacle to go over or around. At this point we had not seen anyone else out there other than our friend from the night before.....until Diablo Drop off. There were maybe 30 Jeeps as part of an all girls jeep club meetup. They would go down, then turn around and come back up. Over and over. Most of the jeeps were stock ish, no lockers so you can imagine how it looked. It was creating a bottle neck at the top and at the bottom. I was getting a little frustrated as I believe Diablo drop off is a one way and you're only supposed to go down and then there is trail etiquette that seemed to be non existent. So I moved forward and the 4 of us were able to go down no trouble at all. At the bottom were some other trucks waiting to go up the sand side and down the drop off but there were unable given the shenanigans up top, also frustrated (but a few really nicely built tundras ere down there so that was some nice eye candy compared to what we saw up to). Once we got down and continued through the trail someone got service and there was a work issue he had to take care of so we stopped on the trail for 15 mins and had a beverage. By this time it was 95 degrees , and 11AM and we were getting over it so passed through Fish Creek (also very crowded, surprisingly) and opted to take a 2 hour break at the Iron Door for some pool and some air conditioning and a few beers.

Doubled back to Fish creek and went around the other side of the fish creek mountains and found an awesome 100 yard silt bed. I had never been through silt before but knew I needed 4x4 and momentum so got on the radio and told everyone what was coming up and to wait for my radio call. It was awesome. A few times the silt splashed over my roof and I wish I got some pics. We all made it through. The tremor wanted to see how far he could get in 2WD and almost got stuck. Which would have been bad to say the least. Continued down the trail and got to the train bridge and took some touristy pics and did a donut or two. Hit it north to our awesome semi secret campsite by about 4. It was hot so we sat in the shade for a few hours swatting flys and drinking. We were all exhausted from not sleeping well the night before and being tossed around all day so hit it early and I slept like a baby.

Next morning we were all smelly and dirty and we got swarmed by bees. We were all pretty much over it so packed up very quickly, headed to the Ocotillo Wells Ranger station, hit the bathroom, organized and packed a little better and took off. I was home by 945 AM. Got the truck un packed and spent 2 hours detailing it.

Few things, I love having my garmin in reach to check in with my pregnant wife and toddler. It's worth every penny. I think everyone should have one just in case. Two nights in the hot desert was too much. It's romantic to think of doing it, and I have done it before but at this point I think I'm an early sat morning to sunday afternoon type of guy. Unless I am in cooler weather- different story. Lastly, I like taking my time. We had too much planned and were constantly trying to get the the next spot so didn't get to enjoy one spot for too long.

It was an awesome trip. Only took a few pics but will post them shortly.
 

YetiX

Active member
Diablo Drop Off can be such a ******** show. Last time we went down it, there was a group of 20-30 Jeeps dicking around, going up and down, and generally blocking the trail like they owned the place. I finally got fed up and just forced my way through and my buddy followed. We went to our special campground in Fish Creek Wash right away as we were worried (and we were right) they might be heading there. I love going out there, but not when it's hot like it is now.
 

SDDiver5

Expedition Leader
Diablo Drop Off can be such a ******** show. Last time we went down it, there was a group of 20-30 Jeeps dicking around, going up and down, and generally blocking the trail like they owned the place. I finally got fed up and just forced my way through and my buddy followed. We went to our special campground in Fish Creek Wash right away as we were worried (and we were right) they might be heading there. I love going out there, but not when it's hot like it is now.

Diablo has been hit or miss with me. Few times there hasn't been a soul in sight, other times is a complete cluster. And it always seems to be jeeps doing the messing around lol.

I've wanted to explore the washes around fish creek to maybe find a new campsite but it's always so crowded.
 

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