2019 F350 6.2L 4WD build thread; HPI flatbed, ATO AterraXL composite camper, Carli/King, 37s, 4.88s, etc

mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge

Will provide some small ones soon as I've added a few things, in queue for more things, and other things on the horizon.

Truck/trips hasn't been the priority lately, although I am taking it out this weekend; end/beginning of the year has been a doozie with 15yo furry kid diag'd with cancer(different) for 2nd time, forelimb amputated to remove the cancer, chemo again soon...but he was hopping around already 2days later and is doing pretty well. He'll be enjoying the sights this weekend from his dog platform perch.
 

RAM5500 CAMPERTHING

OG Portal Member #183
Will provide some small ones soon as I've added a few things, in queue for more things, and other things on the horizon.

Truck/trips hasn't been the priority lately, although I am taking it out this weekend; end/beginning of the year has been a doozie with 15yo furry kid diag'd with cancer(different) for 2nd time, forelimb amputated to remove the cancer, chemo again soon...but he was hopping around already 2days later and is doing pretty well. He'll be enjoying the sights this weekend from his dog platform perch.

Ugh. Sorry to hear man!

Positive vibes to the pooch
 

ITTOG

Well-known member
Will provide some small ones soon as I've added a few things, in queue for more things, and other things on the horizon.

Truck/trips hasn't been the priority lately, although I am taking it out this weekend; end/beginning of the year has been a doozie with 15yo furry kid diag'd with cancer(different) for 2nd time, forelimb amputated to remove the cancer, chemo again soon...but he was hopping around already 2days later and is doing pretty well. He'll be enjoying the sights this weekend from his dog platform perch.
That is horrible. Sorry.

It is amazing how well animals can handle pain though. Glad he is hopping around.
 

mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
Thanks all, much appreciated. Furry kid has still been doing well. Had a minor suture infection that delayed chemo, but that's healed now and he just started chemo yesterday and is still making lots of people smile, especially at his persistance; he's become quite the quick tripawd.


Pics to come, but I wanted to give a user update at least for now.

I've definitely been enjoying the ease of use of the Aterra. Just returned from 16hr round trip where I used it as a mobile motel room for a slightly urban stay (ok, volunteering at a pro rally school wasn't so bad). With the fixed roof, you can be inside and out of the elements in a minute, in bed in another minute if you want, or fixing a meal, or warming up via the Truma. Enough standing room for numerous adults, even those 6'4" or taller. The camper is just simple to use, and that makes it a pleasure to use, which means I want to use it more often. Still way more storage than I've found a use for. HUGE fridge/freezer, Step22 cubby bags are easy to use, Truma is easy to use, sink/range is easy to use.
It hasn't all been 100% perfect, but good people have/are helping solve those. Read on...

--Tern door insulator (Sadly this isn't standard, but it really helps insulate the cabin considerably and now allows full privacy. So if you happen to be boondocking in a Pilot truck stop and changing into your bday suit at night with the Tern roof hatch LED's on, anyone in the parking lot can see ya. Ask me how I know. PS--half my roof hatch LED's just recently burnt out after about 20x of use. Hopefully will be covered under warranty and be an easy swap for 2 new LED assy's. Also, if anyone ever needs to replace the Tern cabin door, it'll be a royal PITA as it's riveted/bonded/etc to the cabin. You can't just drive out the striker pin like a home door. :( I'd like to see Tern think about future serviceability with products this.)

--Overland Gear Guy molle visor (While I have lots of little storage cubbies in my F350 interior, I really wanted quicker access to certain items; small LED flashlight, red penlight, knife, baton, etc. I saw this style of visor in another overland vehicle and searched for one for my F350 but I couldn't find one. Rob at OGG has been supporting the PNW overland scene for 10+yrs so I contacted him and he made me a custom sized visor that works perfect, and what I need is easily at hand).

-Future dual band radio setup (Waiting for an ICOM setup to arrive). TVO will install/setup.

-Skid plates, Maxtrax Mini and Trasharoo brackets (Having these custom made and then they'll go into production. Fab shop are aces and any welds are absolutely gorgeous).

-Lagun table mount mod (Unfortunately this should have been designed better by ATO from the get go IMHO, in that they should have fix-mounted the Lagun table mount to the driver side, vs the passenger side, of the camper's rear wall so that the dinette table was already more oriented to the driver side. Currently it's oriented too far to the pass side and there's not enough swing in the Lagun (Lagun knob runs right into the Tern blind housing) to move the table towards the driver side dinette seat so that you can use the Wrappon without resting your arms on the dinette table. ATO suggests you to remove the table from the Lagun mount and set it on the cabover bed, then have clear space to use the toilet. Quite inconvenient when a bit more thinking could have resulted in a simpler solution that doesn't require the dinette table to be removed to use the porta potti. Wrappon potti is awesome BTW. I honestly haven't used the coagulant yet but will start to try it out. Filled bags slide down into the "poop chute" in the dinette footwell, and are thrown away with my kid's dog poop bags. If I don't have a disposal site at the ready, then I temporarily store them in the rear HPI underbed box. LOVING my HPI flatbed/boxes setup as well, they're the best!).

-Seal Plyboo countertops and dinette table (IMHO these should have come sealed from the get go. Mine already has 2 cup ring stains from people other than myself who were in my camper, so I'll need to lightly sand those areas first. Grrr).

-More power for the furry kid when he can't easily leave the rig with me and needs to stay in the camper (Initially ATO was talking about 3 105Ah batteries, but then they decided on only 2 max. It appears that with a bit more effort the water tank inlet/hoses could be moved to the other corner of the tank, Truma goes on a stand to elevate it off the camper floor, water lines run under it(shielded) vs around it as they're currently in the placeholder for the 3rd battery. Might be able to get a 4th battery in here if we're extra clever. This would allow a portable a/c unit for when the kid needs to stay in the camper for a few hours).

-Also needs a shore plug (Camper doesn't come with one, which is lame for the $ for this unit).

-Better insulation for key components (Battery heat blanket, water tank heat blanket, Shurflo water pump heat blanket. Currently only the Truma is the provision to keep these warm, as I've already seen, there needs to be failsafes in place in case the Truma runs out of propane and shuts off due to initial installer error--thread tape on propane lines which has now been removed and no more propane leaks).

-Ceramic window film for sunnier months (The Mini Maxxair fan isn't powerful enough to extract the heat that builds up if you leave your blinds open in the summer. So, I now keep my blinds, including the roof hatch, closed 100% of the time, even in winter. I've also thought about adding a full Maxxair 10spd fan on the rear upper angle of the cabin, above the dinette, to properly circulate air when needed).

Pics to come soon...
 

wfv56

Active member
Thanks all, much appreciated. Furry kid has still been doing well. Had a minor suture infection that delayed chemo, but that's healed now and he just started chemo yesterday and is still making lots of people smile, especially at his persistance; he's become quite the quick tripawd.


Pics to come, but I wanted to give a user update at least for now.

I've definitely been enjoying the ease of use of the Aterra. Just returned from 16hr round trip where I used it as a mobile motel room for a slightly urban stay (ok, volunteering at a pro rally school wasn't so bad). With the fixed roof, you can be inside and out of the elements in a minute, in bed in another minute if you want, or fixing a meal, or warming up via the Truma. Enough standing room for numerous adults, even those 6'4" or taller. The camper is just simple to use, and that makes it a pleasure to use, which means I want to use it more often. Still way more storage than I've found a use for. HUGE fridge/freezer, Step22 cubby bags are easy to use, Truma is easy to use, sink/range is easy to use.
It hasn't all been 100% perfect, but good people have/are helping solve those. Read on...

--Tern door insulator (Sadly this isn't standard, but it really helps insulate the cabin considerably and now allows full privacy. So if you happen to be boondocking in a Pilot truck stop and changing into your bday suit at night with the Tern roof hatch LED's on, anyone in the parking lot can see ya. Ask me how I know. PS--half my roof hatch LED's just recently burnt out after about 20x of use. Hopefully will be covered under warranty and be an easy swap for 2 new LED assy's. Also, if anyone ever needs to replace the Tern cabin door, it'll be a royal PITA as it's riveted/bonded/etc to the cabin. You can't just drive out the striker pin like a home door. :( I'd like to see Tern think about future serviceability with products this.)

--Overland Gear Guy molle visor (While I have lots of little storage cubbies in my F350 interior, I really wanted quicker access to certain items; small LED flashlight, red penlight, knife, baton, etc. I saw this style of visor in another overland vehicle and searched for one for my F350 but I couldn't find one. Rob at OGG has been supporting the PNW overland scene for 10+yrs so I contacted him and he made me a custom sized visor that works perfect, and what I need is easily at hand).

-Future dual band radio setup (Waiting for an ICOM setup to arrive). TVO will install/setup.

-Skid plates, Maxtrax Mini and Trasharoo brackets (Having these custom made and then they'll go into production. Fab shop are aces and any welds are absolutely gorgeous).

-Lagun table mount mod (Unfortunately this should have been designed better by ATO from the get go IMHO, in that they should have fix-mounted the Lagun table mount to the driver side, vs the passenger side, of the camper's rear wall so that the dinette table was already more oriented to the driver side. Currently it's oriented too far to the pass side and there's not enough swing in the Lagun (Lagun knob runs right into the Tern blind housing) to move the table towards the driver side dinette seat so that you can use the Wrappon without resting your arms on the dinette table. ATO suggests you to remove the table from the Lagun mount and set it on the cabover bed, then have clear space to use the toilet. Quite inconvenient when a bit more thinking could have resulted in a simpler solution that doesn't require the dinette table to be removed to use the porta potti. Wrappon potti is awesome BTW. I honestly haven't used the coagulant yet but will start to try it out. Filled bags slide down into the "poop chute" in the dinette footwell, and are thrown away with my kid's dog poop bags. If I don't have a disposal site at the ready, then I temporarily store them in the rear HPI underbed box. LOVING my HPI flatbed/boxes setup as well, they're the best!).

-Seal Plyboo countertops and dinette table (IMHO these should have come sealed from the get go. Mine already has 2 cup ring stains from people other than myself who were in my camper, so I'll need to lightly sand those areas first. Grrr).

-More power for the furry kid when he can't easily leave the rig with me and needs to stay in the camper (Initially ATO was talking about 3 105Ah batteries, but then they decided on only 2 max. It appears that with a bit more effort the water tank inlet/hoses could be moved to the other corner of the tank, Truma goes on a stand to elevate it off the camper floor, water lines run under it(shielded) vs around it as they're currently in the placeholder for the 3rd battery. Might be able to get a 4th battery in here if we're extra clever. This would allow a portable a/c unit for when the kid needs to stay in the camper for a few hours).

-Also needs a shore plug (Camper doesn't come with one, which is lame for the $ for this unit).

-Better insulation for key components (Battery heat blanket, water tank heat blanket, Shurflo water pump heat blanket. Currently only the Truma is the provision to keep these warm, as I've already seen, there needs to be failsafes in place in case the Truma runs out of propane and shuts off due to initial installer error--thread tape on propane lines which has now been removed and no more propane leaks).

-Ceramic window film for sunnier months (The Mini Maxxair fan isn't powerful enough to extract the heat that builds up if you leave your blinds open in the summer. So, I now keep my blinds, including the roof hatch, closed 100% of the time, even in winter. I've also thought about adding a full Maxxair 10spd fan on the rear upper angle of the cabin, above the dinette, to properly circulate air when needed).

Pics to come soon...
much appreciated update!
 

RAM5500 CAMPERTHING

OG Portal Member #183
--Overland Gear Guy molle visor (While I have lots of little storage cubbies in my F350 interior, I really wanted quicker access to certain items; small LED flashlight, red penlight, knife, baton,

Quicker Access to Baton? This dude parties!!!

Here is what i use when the misses doesnt join, i put it on the passenger seat, holds items u mention above, but also huge water bottle, first aid kit, etc... Then when i get home, it all just zips up and i bring it inside. i find it tremdously useful and convienient:

 

mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
Nothing here. ?


Quicker Access to Baton? This dude parties!!!

Here is what i use when the misses doesnt join, i put it on the passenger seat, holds items u mention above, but also huge water bottle, first aid kit, etc... Then when i get home, it all just zips up and i bring it inside. i find it tremdously useful and convienient:


I don't have your expertise with it, but the ASP is a handy "tool" if the need ever arises.

Well that's a very slick way to skin the cat; compact package that just zips up and totes out--thanks for sharing. Somewhere to hold a big water bottle would be handy; wouldn't you know it, none of the Ford's 4 will hold a Nalgene, so I'll have to find a different bottle (easiest solution).
I have my first aid kit in RF seat back.
 

boardrider247

Weekend warrior anarchist
FLATBED
I re-contacted my guy Aaron at Highway Products Inc. in southern Oregon (thx to @RAM5500 CAMPERTHING for feedback on their build quality), to change up the aluminum flatbed we had been designing for the chassis cab. With the known dimensions of the camper; we could put the spare/storage box between truck and camper like ATO did on their RAM (if HPI did a frame extension--which I wasn't keen on due to length, nor adding to the Ford frame). Or we could put a full width crossframe/"tunnel" box between truck cab and camper and store the spare on a custom mount off the rear of the flatbed, or keep the spare in the factory location. I decided on the latter (will shave a 37" tire down to fit, thx to info from @montypower). Initially since there was no fuel tank upgrade from the petrol pickup's 34gal tank, I was planning on putting 4 of my 4gal black Rotopax fuel containers in the tunnel box (against the harsh criticism of RAM5500) to have 50gal of fuel capacity, so HPI designed 2 circular vents in the bottom/rear panel of the box. Fuel filler in a custom housing on the driver side of the tunnel box. Both doors to the cross frame box have shocks to keep them open, LED lights turn on when the doors are opened (boxes seal so damn well it feels like doors are suctioned shut). Lots of custom details to try to maximize storage including 8 strips of L-track and 4 removable shelves. 4 under-bed boxes in Gladiator dimpled finish, preserving departure angle (note; the camper will be permanently mounted to the flatbed, so the 4 under-bed boxes can only be installed/fully sealed after the camper is mounted). HPI designed/engineered/crafted the longest bed their engineers felt comfortable with. Small bullet LED clearance lights, rope hook tie downs and 2 small rear steps on the flatbed deck, factory Ford rear camera in custom HPI housing. All powdercoated in BK62 (Black Hammer finish)--this finish appears to have the best longevity. They also custom installed a set of BajaDesigns S1's into the rear apron to act as auxiliary backup lights (they're bright for such a tiny package!), wired into one of the Aux switches. Hugely impressed with their craftsmanship and service, and made in the USA!

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I'm in the process of building a similar setup (2017 F350, home built aluminum flatbed camper) though more road going than yours.

Curious about the construction of your flatbed. Is it a 100% aluminum build? Or was it built with a steel structure then trimmed with aluminum? I have found both styles commercially available. I'm trying to decide if I will be fabricating my own flatbed tray or purchasing something off the shelf and modifying as needed.

Great looking rig!
Cheers
Danny
 

mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
I'm in the process of building a similar setup (2017 F350, home built aluminum flatbed camper) though more road going than yours.

Curious about the construction of your flatbed. Is it a 100% aluminum build? Or was it built with a steel structure then trimmed with aluminum? I have found both styles commercially available. I'm trying to decide if I will be fabricating my own flatbed tray or purchasing something off the shelf and modifying as needed.

Great looking rig!
Cheers
Danny

Thx Danny. AFAIK it's all 100% aluminum. I don't think HPI uses any steel, save for SS piano hinges other cargo boxes, and maybe the actual box handles.

If you're looking for an economical solution, check out UTE bed from AUS. Their USA importer is in Seattle WA. It's what AEV used on their white single cab Prospector XL work truck years ago.
 

mk216v

Der Chef der Fahrzeuge
Truck coming back from the 2nd fab shop, then at the ATO dealer for a few small warranty items on the Aterra, then back to the 2nd fab shop. Then back to 1st fab shop to add a few more items before the temps begin to rise and we can start using the rig more in warmer weather.

I have a few new under-rig trinkets to show off soon, once I've been given the green light by the manufacturer.
 

RAM5500 CAMPERTHING

OG Portal Member #183
at the ATO dealer for a few small warranty items on the Aterra,

Details on “few small warranty items” on something basically brand new and $70k+ would be helpful to share with the community and potential buyers.

ON PAPER, the Arterra checks a lot of boxes and something I thought would have taken off big time and sold like hot cakes.

I saw some odd red flags, but based on everything else, thought it would still be a VERY popular option, considering the nicer pop up campers are close in price now...

I heard rumors the walls were much thinner than folks realize and with all the windows the insulation is lacking big time.

Haven’t been able to confirm this and I find it odd Super Mario doesn’t list the panel thickness (rumored to be only 1/2") ANYWHERE, and everyone seems to refuse to answer a very simple and straight forward question. ?

My gut senses something is awry….
 
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Chadx

♫ Off road, again. Just can't wait to get...
Even more important than thickness, I want all manufactures to list the R rating of walls, ceiling and floor since that is the important number (at least for heating and cooling). There is also the questions of ruggedness and durability since we are taking these on rough trails and washboard. A rating for that is harder to imagine. I just want some assurance that cabins and cabinetry are robust enough, on any these "overlanding" rigs.
 

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