2019 Ford Ranger Taking Orders

[Highlander]

Well manuals are indeed good, but you can upshift or downshift on the modern autos too. My 2005 Saab has those pedal shifter on the wheel and they work just fine. I use the manual mode when I go over passes. I only can imagine how great that mode works on big trucks, especially on the ten speed.

 

[toylandcruiser]

How tall of trailer? I'm guessing that we are not comparing apples to apples.

Like I said in my original post I was pulling my land cruiser on a trailer. You’re trying to justify your feelings in anyway possible. But either you’re talking g out of **************** or there more to the story.

 

[Highlander]

I'm 6'4" and the Ranger is tight with a low roofline. No way I'd cram myself into one. The Tacoma is a bit boxier and accessible but I feel like I'm sitting on the floor rather then a seat. Next life I'll be 5'10"

Did you sit in the new renger? I didn’t know they hit dealerships yet.

I am 6-3 and 230lb (well I have to be 200lb lol) so when I sit in a Tacoma I feel I am sitting on a carpet. The wheel is right in between my legs.

Sitting comfortably for long distance driving is essential for me. I had a 12 hour surgery on my spine so I take the sitting position extremely seriously

 

[Deleted member 9101]

Like I said in my original post I was pulling my land cruiser on a trailer. You’re trying to justify your feelings in anyway possible. But either you’re talking g out of **************** or there more to the story.

Like I have told you before, in numerous threads, same exact travel trailer on the same exact roads. Same number of people headed for the same camp ground. The Tundra didn't do bad, but the EcoBoost does it better, in every single aspect. Pulling a trailer up to Cloudcroft NM was a chore for my Tundra, the EcoBoost just spun the turbos harder and kept pulling. It didn't struggle, it didn't constantly have to down shift and run up to redline... it simply pulled it with out fuss.

Look, I get it, you worship at the alter of Toyota...and that's fine, live in your little bubble. But the fact still remains that the EcoBoost pulls better. I have ~258,000 miles worth of experience in a Tundra and ~194,000 miles between two EcoBoost F150's. But don't believe me, spend 30 seconds on Google and see how it out pulls the Tundra.

Now have a nice evening.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

My stock clutch went 250K, and super cheap to fix compared to an auto.

Took the wife's SUV with an auto today to run errands... as much as I try to like it, just don't care for driving autos. Wish it had a manny in it. She shares the same thought too. But we got a screaming deal on it, sooo...it is what it is.

Well, like I said, I've never had to repair an automatic, with the exception of ones that were thoroughly abused.

After spending a few years driving OTR, I am cool with an auto. Stick shifts no longer net better performance or fuel economy and I spend 90% of my time in traffic. The new transmissions will damn near outlast the motors and usually go well beyond the mileage thet the first couple of owners will put on a vehicle.

Hell, my buddy has been doing full boost launches at the strip, in 4hi, in his truck since he bought it 5 years ago and he has had zero problems.

 

[Deleted member 9101]

Well manuals are indeed good, but you can upshift or downshift on the modern autos too. My 2005 Saab has those pedal shifter on the wheel and they work just fine. I use the manual mode when I go over passes. I only can imagine how great that mode works on big trucks, especially on the ten speed.

Even better than that is you can lock out gears so it wont use them or lock it in a gear so it won't shift up or down.

 

[Clutch]

Well, like I said, I've never had to repair an automatic, with the exception of ones that were thoroughly abused.

After spending a few years driving OTR, I am cool with an auto. Stick shifts no longer net better performance or fuel economy and I spend 90% of my time in traffic. The new transmissions will damn near outlast the motors and usually go well beyond the mileage thet the first couple of owners will put on a vehicle.

Hell, my buddy has been doing full boost launches at the strip, in 4hi, in his truck since he bought it 5 years ago and he has had zero problems.

I like driving manuals over autos, that's all. I try to try to like autos, but they just don't do it for me.

 

[Dalko43]

Like I have told you before, in numerous threads, same exact travel trailer on the same exact roads. Same number of people headed for the same camp ground. The Tundra didn't do bad, but the EcoBoost does it better, in every single aspect. Pulling a trailer up to Cloudcroft NM was a chore for my Tundra, the EcoBoost just spun the turbos harder and kept pulling. It didn't struggle, it didn't constantly have to down shift and run up to redline... it simply pulled it with out fuss.

Look, I get it, you worship at the alter of Toyota...and that's fine, live in your little bubble. But the fact still remains that the EcoBoost pulls better. I have ~258,000 miles worth of experience in a Tundra and ~194,000 miles between two EcoBoost F150's. But don't believe me, spend 30 seconds on Google and see how it out pulls the Tundra.

Now have a nice evening.

4.6l or 5.7l?

I’ve never heard someone complain about a lack of pulling power with the 5.7l.


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[Todd780]

Not cool. But ya'll wanted ecoboof torque. This is the price.

Not me. I'd rather see a NA V6 under the hood. I prefer the K.I.S.S. mentality - Keep It Simple Stupid. lol

 

[Buliwyf]

Yeah. Me to. A 260hp 3.4L V6 with 260# of torque would be fine. Simple, cheap, reliable. I guess as long as the Eco is reliable, I have nothing to say though.

Just get me home reliably, every single time. Give me good suspension and axle options instead. And give it on any trim level. Raptor wheels, tires, fenders, locker, on an XL. For example.

As for F150 vs Tundra, when towing. That's no contest. The F150 is a much larger feeling truck. That's likely the #1 issue, where the Ford beats the Tundra. Generally to the point, where a 3/4 ton makes much more sense, before the F150 starts to really suffer.

I wonder if the Ranger will be better than it's peers at hauling pop-ups. Time will tell.

 

[Wallygator]

I'm guessing all this heresy and stuff will be cleared up when the ranger finally gets here and people start test driving them. As mentioned I have heard you don't need to pull the front tire to change the oil, which is no big deal anyway since that is when you rotate the tires. @Clutch 5000 mile changes are not much different than 3000 and will save you money and time, somethings I gather you appreciate. However you have a point with the lack of manual trans, it is what it is and it's not going to change. I am betting this will be the last generation of Tacomas with a manual trans and therefore the last of the manual trans in a truck. I have heard this is the last of a manual for the cummins also.
Also as mentioned the Rangers transmission is the same as the F150 so it will be very reliable behind a turbo 4. As far as towing, I don't drag race while towing, I rely on torque and the turbo 4's torque is far lower in the scale than the Camry engine in the Tacoma. Reliability- I think will be fine on the Ford as that motor is hardly working since it has major upside for more power. So will it pull me from my 4Runner and Toyota? I will know in 2021-2022 when I think about getting a new vehicle and all the teething issues are over.

 

[Clutch]

Not me. I'd rather see a NA V6 under the hood. I prefer the K.I.S.S. mentality - Keep It Simple Stupid. lol

Me too! But nothing is simple anymore these days...they even had to go and ruin a simple oil change.

The more I see of the new stuff, the more I like my old crap...

 

[Buliwyf]

I think in a weird twist of fate, Ford has their truck transmissions dialed in, pretty darn well now.

 

[Clutch]

I'm guessing all this heresy and stuff will be cleared up when the ranger finally gets here and people start test driving them. As mentioned I have heard you don't need to pull the front tire to change the oil, which is no big deal anyway since that is when you rotate the tires. @Clutch 5000 mile changes are not much different than 3000 and will save you money and time, somethings I gather you appreciate. However you have a point with the lack of manual trans, it is what it is and it's not going to change. I am betting this will be the last generation of Tacomas with a manual trans and therefore the last of the manual trans in a truck. I have heard this is the last of a manual for the cummins also.
Also as mentioned the Rangers transmission is the same as the F150 so it will be very reliable behind a turbo 4. As far as towing, I don't drag race while towing, I rely on torque and the turbo 4's torque is far lower in the scale than the Camry engine in the Tacoma. Reliability- I think will be fine on the Ford as that motor is hardly working since it has major upside for more power. So will it pull me from my 4Runner and Toyota? I will know in 2021-2022 when I get a new vehicle and all the teething issues are over.

Used to change my oil every 2500 miles...but that was getting a bit excessive for how much I drive. Roughly 30K/year now, buy oil filters by the case. Do have close to 390'000 miles on the old girl, so there might be something to my OCD oil changes.

Agree with you on the Ranger, it will fine...majority of people buying these midsizes aren't buying them for towing or hauling, they buy them for daily's. Most will never see a lot of strain.

 

[Wallygator]

Me too! But nothing is simple anymore these days...they even had to go and ruin a simple oil change.

The more I see of the new stuff, the more I like my old crap...

Again not sure if this whole remove the wheel thing for an oil change is true. Also if you are willing to use adapters and relocation devices on the Toyota, why not the Ford? I hear ya about the old crap, new is not always better that is for sure.